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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 03:26 PM
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I purchased a 2008 997.1 Carrera 4S in April that had supposedly had a 150 point inspection at a Porsche dealer Tom Ford earlier this year. The car was flipped to Lux Sport who told me that all the service paperwork was included with the ca including the IMS bearing that was replaced.
when I had the car delivered there was no paperwork whatsoever. The dealer assured me that the Porsche dealer he got it from did all the work.
To be certain I decided to to change the oil and send it for testing to determine the condition of the bearing. I also replace the intake manifold with a K&N air fllter. When I took the casing apart this is what I found.
has anyone else come across this and is there a way to avoid it from happening?


This does not look like it was touched in years.


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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 03:33 PM
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That's nuts!

I guess that's why independent PPI's are always recommended—can't trust dealers to be accurate or, unfortunately, honest.
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 03:41 PM
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The larger bearing in your car is not replaceable, but much more reliable.

That is the underside/dirty side of the filter but I think it still did its job. I would not say the that the condition of the filter is a critical as other items. I think Porsche recommends that the filter be replaced every 60K miles. I did mine at 30K miles and it had some debris but that much.

It is disappointing to hear that the seller did not give you accurate information.

You might want to check the radiators. They are good for collecting trash.
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 03:50 PM
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Thanks for your reply. I will check out the radiator. Much appreciate the advice. My car has 35500 miles on it of which I only put about 400 miles on it.
I am going to try and find a mesh to cover the open hole.
if anyone has a recommendation please let me know.
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 03:56 PM
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Holy lord! I don't think you need mesh. Just don't store your garden trash in there like the PO.
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Jay
Thanks for your reply. I will check out the radiator. Much appreciate the advice. My car has 35500 miles on it of which I only put about 400 miles on it.
I am going to try and find a mesh to cover the open hole.
if anyone has a recommendation please let me know.

A mesh for the intake? I wouldn't. Not sure what happened here but this is an anomaly. No need to alter the design to resolve it. I would be concerned that the mesh would effect airflow
in some way. I have changed my air filter countless times and never come across anything like that.

Is it a Nest?

I have screens on my radiators but stuff sill get's in. It's almost worse because it's smaller and hard to get out.
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 03:59 PM
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Holy lord! I don't think you need mesh. Just don't store your garden trash in there like the PO.
I must have confused it with my garden bin.
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hella-Buggin'
A mesh for the intake? I wouldn't. Not sure what happened here but this is an anomaly. No need to alter the design to resolve it. I would be concerned that the mesh would effect airflow
in some way. I have changed my air filter countless times and never come across anything like that.

Is it a Nest?

I have screens on my radiators but stuff sill get's in. It's almost worse because it's smaller and hard to get out.
not a nest and not from my trees either. It must have accumulated over the years. Looks like an old filter so I guess everyone was assuming that would wait until 60000 miles before changing it.

just glad that I caught it.

thanks
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Old Jul 29, 2021 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Jay
I purchased a 2008 997.1 Carrera 4S in April that had supposedly had a 150 point inspection at a Porsche dealer Tom Ford earlier this year. The car was flipped to Lux Sport who told me that all the service paperwork was included with the ca including the IMS bearing that was replaced.
when I had the car delivered there was no paperwork whatsoever. The dealer assured me that the Porsche dealer he got it from did all the work.
To be certain I decided to to change the oil and send it for testing to determine the condition of the bearing. I also replace the intake manifold with a K&N air fllter. When I took the casing apart this is what I found.
has anyone else come across this and is there a way to avoid it from happening?


This does not look like it was touched in years.
You should post those photos on the Tom Ford Porsche FB page.

Terrible for any dealership to do something like this, much less a Porsche dealer.

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/...Ford%20Porsche



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Old Jul 30, 2021 | 01:00 AM
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You should post those photos on the Tom Ford Porsche FB page.

Terrible for any dealership to do something like this, much less a Porsche dealer.

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/...Ford%20Porsche
I sent a text to them and it is being passed on to management. They need to know as if the job requires a filter, Is a mechanic faking the work and stealing the parts? Just not doing their job or what. A Porsche dealer has a reputation to uphold and even though they flipped the car to a Luxury car dealer in Long Island, their name is still on the work. I know this 100% because I found the online ad for my car at Tom Ford Porsche for $5k less a fe months earlier than I paid to Lux Motors and it clearly stated that the 150 point check up was done to the car.
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Old Jul 30, 2021 | 02:36 AM
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Did you say you bought it from Luxsport? If so, you should have done some homework first.
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Old Jul 30, 2021 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Jay
I purchased a 2008 997.1 Carrera 4S in April that had supposedly had a 150 point inspection at a Porsche dealer Tom Ford earlier this year. The car was flipped to Lux Sport who told me that all the service paperwork was included with the ca including the IMS bearing that was replaced.
If I was the buyer of this car the first and foremost thing I would ask for would be detailed documentation on the IMS replacement they said was done. Replacing the IMS on a 2008 997 requires taking the engine apart. Not like changing spark plugs. I hope I'm wrong but what are the odds of a dealership or any other dealer for that matter dropping the engine and splitting the case for a preemptive IMS replacement?
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Old Jul 30, 2021 | 04:23 AM
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That takes 5 minutes to replace or clean... I would start looking more in detail at previous ownership, might be a great car with neglectful owners, bring her to life!
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Old Jul 30, 2021 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Fahrer
The larger bearing in your car is not replaceable, but much more reliable.
Mine was replaced. But it was a *lot* of work...and there is a lot of paperwork with it.
;-)
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Old Jul 30, 2021 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Fahrer
The larger bearing in your car is not replaceable, but much more reliable.

That is the underside/dirty side of the filter but I think it still did its job. I would not say the that the condition of the filter is a critical as other items. I think Porsche recommends that the filter be replaced every 60K miles. I did mine at 30K miles and it had some debris but that much.

It is disappointing to hear that the seller did not give you accurate information.

You might want to check the radiators. They are good for collecting trash.
I check my air filters on my 997 every 12 months regardless of what the manual states for this exact reason. Checking the air filters on 997’s is simple …..especially compared to 991/992. I would check air filters at least every other oil change instead of installing mesh.
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