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Old Apr 3, 2021 | 05:28 PM
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Default Window seal deteriorated

Should I be worried about rust? Anyone have this problem? Is the solve simply to replace (which I am told from the dealer, needs to replace the whole window). He also said I could throw some silicone on it and call it a day.... anyone have any experience with this? This is the passenger side rear window.





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I live in Florida and am extra cautious to keep mine coated with natural shine of something. I think it's one piece and I believe to change the window gaskets they have to take the glass out and drill out the old attachment sites to the body. I also hear they need to be careful with the drilling cause if the scrap falls in between the panels it could make noise down the road from driving and bouncing around in there. I unfortunately believe it being a several hour job. Good luck man, let us know the going Indy mechanic rate. As these get older everyones going to go through it. I could be wrong, I'm sure someone more qualified can chime in.
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Old Apr 4, 2021 | 01:51 AM
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That particular window seal is riveted in place. Removing it and installing a new one is no easy task as you have to drill out the old rivets and if they fall into the rear quarter panel they could cause problems.
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Dealer said I would have to replace the entire window with labor it was close to 1700....

But I guess, if I left it for the time being, am I risking rust? Doesn't water normally get in there or do the seals actually prevent that? Or can I simply do silicone?

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Old Apr 4, 2021 | 07:13 AM
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What Presto said is true. Check out this thread below on what can happen if the shop you take it to do the job isn’t careful. You’ll get dents in your rear quarter panel. Maybe better to just use some black silicone for now.

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...ward-dent.html
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Old Apr 4, 2021 | 09:24 AM
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Has this car sat outside in the sun most of its life? I've not seen this on 997s very often, more on 40 year old 928s.
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Old Apr 4, 2021 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Presto
That particular window seal is riveted in place. Removing it and installing a new one is no easy task as you have to drill out the old rivets and if they fall into the rear quarter panel they could cause problems.
Originally Posted by Carreralicious
What Presto said is true. Check out this thread below on what can happen if the shop you take it to do the job isn’t careful. You’ll get dents in your rear quarter panel. Maybe better to just use some black silicone for now.

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...ward-dent.html
This, a previous 997 of mine had the window seal removed for a respray by the previous owner. I had an outward dent caused by these rivets. Then I had to work on getting them all removed, which involved going in through the rear speakers inside of the car, into the double walled rear quarter area. Not an enjoyable process. I'd recommend that you replace the window seal if it bothers you, but that you're sure to get a PDR (paintless dent removal guy) in there to remove all of the rivets for you after they replace the seal. Or that you instruct the dealer to take pics of the inner quarter so that you know it's clear of rivets.
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Originally Posted by Petza914
Has this car sat outside in the sun most of its life? I've not seen this on 997s very often, more on 40 year old 928s.
I am it's most recent owner and this is something I inherited with the car. Seems likely though.
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
This, a previous 997 of mine had the window seal removed for a respray by the previous owner. I had an outward dent caused by these rivets. Then I had to work on getting them all removed, which involved going in through the rear speakers inside of the car, into the double walled rear quarter area. Not an enjoyable process. I'd recommend that you replace the window seal if it bothers you, but that you're sure to get a PDR (paintless dent removal guy) in there to remove all of the rivets for you after they replace the seal. Or that you instruct the dealer to take pics of the inner quarter so that you know it's clear of rivets.
TBH, it only bothers me if the seal can lead to rust. I can live with it for the time being... maybe the answer is to simply throw some black silicone on that thing? Spending the money at the dealer to replace the whole window seems crazy.
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You do not need to replace the window. The seals can be replaced alone. It was done that way on my car when it was repainted.
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Originally Posted by Presto
You do not need to replace the window. The seals can be replaced alone. It was done that way on my car when it was repainted.
@presto, do you happen to be in the tri-state area? Who did the work?
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Old Apr 6, 2021 | 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by misterdega
@presto, do you happen to be in the tri-state area? Who did the work?
unfortunately I’m not even in the same continent as you.
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Originally Posted by Presto
unfortunately I’m not even in the same continent as you.
Ah... Damn. lol

Was the shop able to successfully change the seals without dropping the rivets into the body? Or is that something that will happen no matter what?
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Old Apr 6, 2021 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by misterdega
Ah... Damn. lol

Was the shop able to successfully change the seals without dropping the rivets into the body? Or is that something that will happen no matter what?
when you drill the rivets out, it is possible (high chance) of bits falling into the body cavity. I told the shop before they started the job that they will have to remove any piece that fell inside. They managed to go from the rear wheel well and remove some trim just enough to pick up the bits that fell in. Not an easy task. Thankfully labor rates here are quite low.
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