mwoc

I have found a C2S that I'm interested in purchasing however there are a few things that give me pause. Namely the over rev's plus some of the other faults. Further there is some discrepancy in the carfax about the odometer miles. The calculated mph from the dme is about 39mph - seems high. This is my first pcar and I'm hoping some of you smart people can help. Thanks in advance.

Vehicle Model Type: 997 CARRERA COUPE S 6 speed manual
Vehicle Model Year: 2006
Production Plant: Stuttgart

Number of Modules with Faults:12


DME Information

M numbers
023 026 098 130 196 199 218 219 234 267 268 270 288 335 342 403 424 426 434 437 438 440 446 454 460 465 475 476 480 484 535 537 553 555 560 567 571 573 575 601 607 615 621 640 650 659 660 661 664 665 670 680 685 692 706 709 912 937 946 991

Exclusive numbers
XSC

Z numbers
67328

Country coding
, c2

Ignition Ranges
Number of ignitions in range 1 : 7716 Number of ignitions in range 2 : 1390 Number of ignitions in range 3 : 218 Number of ignitions in range 4 : 6 Number of ignitions in range 5 : 1 Number of ignitions in range 6 : 0 Some DME variants do not store ignition ranges.

Operating hours counter
-2208.200 hours

Total distance displayed
139780 Km

DME 7202
PART NUMBER(S): 99761862406
VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER FROM CONTROL UNIT:

No faults

TIPTRONIC/PDK

Module not fitted or not communicating

PDK LEVER

Module not fitted or not communicating

PASM 0101
PART NUMBER(S): 99761810505

No faults

PSM 0101
PART NUMBER(S): 99761810906

1 Fault(s) Present
4802 Undervoltage

PTM

Module not fitted or not communicating

RDK (TPM)

Module not fitted or not communicating

AIR CONDITIONING 0201
PART NUMBER(S): 99765311114

2 Fault(s) Present
8035 Interior sensor fan
8023 Outside air/recirculation air flap motor

AWS 0101
PART NUMBER(S): 99761823303

4 Fault(s) Present
C128 Communication PAS (comfort) control unit
C153 Communication steering wheel electronics control unit (drive)
C152 Communication PSM control unit (drive)
8014 POSIP LIN: No communication

CHRONOMETER 0102
PART NUMBER(S): 99764131110

No faults
GATEWAY 0100
PART NUMBER(S): 99761010703
VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER FROM CONTROL UNIT:

No faults

INSTRUMENT CLUSTER 120A
PART NUMBER(S): 99764111312
VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER FROM CONTROL UNIT:

1 Fault(s) Present
9152 Front lid open

PARK ASSISTANT

Module not fitted or not communicating

PORSCHE ACCESS SYSTEM 0103
PART NUMBER(S): 99761817212

2 Fault(s) Present
8005 Terminal S
8004 Terminal 50

POSIP/AIRBAG 0104
PART NUMBER(S): 99761821707

4 Fault(s) Present
8012 Voltage supply, below lower limit
C140 Communication instrument cluster
C152 Communication PSM control module
80F9 Brief interruption of supply voltage

SEAT MEMORY 0100
PART NUMBER(S): 99761853707

1 Fault(s) Present
C102 Comfort CAN - single-wire operation

STEERING COLUMN SWITCH 0100
PART NUMBER(S): 99761305504

No faults

VEHICLE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM 0101
PART NUMBER(S): 99761010205

4 Fault(s) Present
C128 Communication PAS (comfort) control module
8001 Power supply
8036 Right seat heater
8035 Left seat heater

CORNERING LIGHT

Module not fitted or not communicating

CONVERTIBLE TOP

Module not fitted or not communicating

TARGA TOP

Module not fitted or not communicating

PASSENGER DOOR 5001
PART NUMBER(S): 99762418203

1 Fault(s) Present
C128 Communication PAS (comfort) control module

DRIVER DOOR 5001
PART NUMBER(S): 99762418103

1 Fault(s) Present
C128 Communication PAS (comfort) control module

FRONT 0102
PART NUMBER(S): 99761010511

3 Fault(s) Present
8001 Power supply
C128 Communication PAS (comfort) control module
8042 Front luggage compartment unlocking

REAR 0101
PART NUMBER(S): 99761826004

1 Fault(s) Present
C128 Communication PAS (comfort) control module

ACTIVE ENGINE MOUNT

Module not fitted or not communicating

roadie13

For the overrevs the key data is how long ago the range 4 event was; we like to see 100 hours or more to make sure
all is well.

The laundry list of error codes could mean nothing or a serious headache; depends on how long the car sat, the state of the battery, etc.

A PPI is pretty much essential, so that will answer the error code question.

ATX_Native

Range 4 is only 6 ignitions, so I would ignore it.

Looks like a clean DME from my perspective.

Going forward you want to get the operating hours each ignition range occurred at.

mwoc

Yeah that's how the seller sent it over to me - other dme reports I've seen have the hours at which the last ignitions occurred. The other issue is carfax flagging the car with a potential odometer discrepancy - that and the somewhat high average speed but maybe I'm being too paranoid.

roadie13

Yep, I read that in reverse as 218 in range 4 . Which btw would also not worry me. So rev report is fine; indeed Porsche used to CPO cars with range 3 overrevs w/o questions asked.

southbay

It could be due to an incorrect entry, such as by a smog shop. Do the mileages before and after make sense? Post the carfax here and hide the VIN if you want.

mwoc

Here is the Carfax. Total mileage on the car is listed as 86,700. Seems like a year of driving miles is missing. All opinions welcomed.

southbay

I don’t trust it based on the previous service mileage intervals. It doesn’t add up. Also, it appears they dropped it to sell it. I would pass.

mwoc

Is the odometer reading a different chip than what the DME reports? The listed miles in the DME does line up.

southbay

Lots of conflicting info on the net, but it does appear it’s stored in both, and the one in DME is less due to how it’s obtained?
This is for a 996: http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=916989​​​

mwoc

Thanks @southbay The real discrepancy is in the Carfax. I'm conflicted on this car since I have it secured at a good price. If the full PPI comes back good I'm inclined to pull the trigger.

Petza914

You need the hours included for the overev report. If the car is not running when you pull fault codes you'll get a bunch of communication errors like that. If it's the right car at the right price, pay the few hundred dollars for a PPI to check everything out.

mwoc

I agree and am getting a PPI done. I've already done a PPI on another car that didn't work out - I know it's the right thing to do when buying but I hope I don't have to do 5 PPI's before I find a decent car as it adds up!

ATX_Native

I had to buy two PPIs and had a car sold out from under me by a dealer on a 3rd.

Then it was third time was a charm, re: a PPI.

Then I found my perfect car... a 997.2 w/43k miles for 997.1 w/60k mile money from PCA Mart.

I highly suggest checking there and if you find one get a membership to communicate.

I already had a membership so when my 997.2 was posted I jumped all over it.

Clean DME, clean PPI, smooth transaction with a Porsche enthusiast. Win win.

I am so glad I passed on those other cars!!!