Rear PASM shocks Bilstein B4 or B6?
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No warning, took off in 1st gear from stop sign and found stick shift meeting brick walls for all gears. No reverse, 2nd or any gears left. Unable to shift out of neutral, Never experienced anything like it before, been driving manual transmissions for years!
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Usually you'd experience slipping on a worn clutch.
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Had similar experience with my 996. One day, during a commute, became stuck in neutral and would no longer get into gears. Turned out that the cable became ever so slightly out of adjustment due a broken cable clip (near the transmission). I cannot recall why, but I did not have the part replaced - the small part was either unavailable or the P-tax too great. My indy fastened the shifter cable back in place using stainless wire looped neatly. It worked, and will outlast the OE clip.
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Recently purchased a used 2010 997.2 C2S (30k miles, manual, PASM) that came equipped with H&R springs (too low in the front/too raked for my liking). Took the car in to have the springs swapped out for Eibach's and learned that both oem rear shocks were leaking. As the car is my daily driver (no track), the service advisor and I came to the agreement to have Bilstein B6 damptronic shocks/struts replaced all around along with new bump stops and tower mounts. It was the advisor's thought that B6's were better suited for the Eibach lowering springs as opposed to the B4s, and that the B8 (shorter units) may have kept the ride height too low. Will post up some thoughts as to the change in ride quality and change in height when I pick it up later this week.
Regards,
Recently purchased a used 2010 997.2 C2S (30k miles, manual, PASM) that came equipped with H&R springs (too low in the front/too raked for my liking). Took the car in to have the springs swapped out for Eibach's and learned that both oem rear shocks were leaking. As the car is my daily driver (no track), the service advisor and I came to the agreement to have Bilstein B6 damptronic shocks/struts replaced all around along with new bump stops and tower mounts. It was the advisor's thought that B6's were better suited for the Eibach lowering springs as opposed to the B4s, and that the B8 (shorter units) may have kept the ride height too low. Will post up some thoughts as to the change in ride quality and change in height when I pick it up later this week.
Regards,
Last edited by oalvarez; May 22, 2023 at 09:13 PM.
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Thread revival
Recently purchased a used 2010 997.2 C2S (30k miles, manual, PASM) that came equipped with H&R springs (too low in the front/too raked for my liking). Took the car in to have the springs swapped out for Eibach's and learned that both oem rear shocks were leaking. As the car is my daily driver (no track), the service advisor and I came to the agreement to have Bilstein B6 damptronic shocks/struts replaced all around along with new bump stops and tower mounts. It was the advisor's thought that B6's were better suited for the Eibach lowering springs as opposed to the B4s, and that the B8 (shorter units) may have kept the ride height too low. Will post up some thoughts as to the change in ride quality and change in height when I pick it up later this week.
Regards,
Recently purchased a used 2010 997.2 C2S (30k miles, manual, PASM) that came equipped with H&R springs (too low in the front/too raked for my liking). Took the car in to have the springs swapped out for Eibach's and learned that both oem rear shocks were leaking. As the car is my daily driver (no track), the service advisor and I came to the agreement to have Bilstein B6 damptronic shocks/struts replaced all around along with new bump stops and tower mounts. It was the advisor's thought that B6's were better suited for the Eibach lowering springs as opposed to the B4s, and that the B8 (shorter units) may have kept the ride height too low. Will post up some thoughts as to the change in ride quality and change in height when I pick it up later this week.
Regards,
There are varying degrees of opinion out there, including a majority of people stating that the B6s are better suited to the Eibachs. Am curious what you think happens to ride comfort...too much of a sacrifice, or just right?
I am looking forward to your judgement.
Thx!
Bob
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@VT Blue
-2010 C2S w/PASM......the car had H&R springs when purchased, 30k miles on the odometer
-Ride height super raked/low in the front, less than pleasant when traversing bumpy/uneven roads in town
-Rear OEM shocks were found to be leaking
-New Bilstein B6 and Eibach springs including bump stops (rear) and shock/strut tower mounts all around
-First blush (two miles all in-city driving): sits balanced, nothing like it did with the H&R springs....I mean, perfectly balanced front and rear, zero rake...definitely sits higher than before, will provide measurements in short order. The car rides entirely differently than with the oem pasm units and h&r springs, feels more like a new car if you will (fresh valving), steering and simple cornering/braking is a felt difference. No more scraping going in and out of driveways (this is my daily driver) and I'm all for that. I don't know how much the suspension will settle (it's all of a few hours old), but if I could wave a wand and say presto-magico, drop another 1/4 inch, I would.
Will try and provide more info in time.
Regards,
-2010 C2S w/PASM......the car had H&R springs when purchased, 30k miles on the odometer
-Ride height super raked/low in the front, less than pleasant when traversing bumpy/uneven roads in town
-Rear OEM shocks were found to be leaking
-New Bilstein B6 and Eibach springs including bump stops (rear) and shock/strut tower mounts all around
-First blush (two miles all in-city driving): sits balanced, nothing like it did with the H&R springs....I mean, perfectly balanced front and rear, zero rake...definitely sits higher than before, will provide measurements in short order. The car rides entirely differently than with the oem pasm units and h&r springs, feels more like a new car if you will (fresh valving), steering and simple cornering/braking is a felt difference. No more scraping going in and out of driveways (this is my daily driver) and I'm all for that. I don't know how much the suspension will settle (it's all of a few hours old), but if I could wave a wand and say presto-magico, drop another 1/4 inch, I would.
Will try and provide more info in time.
Regards,
Last edited by oalvarez; May 25, 2023 at 12:00 AM.
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quick update: weeks since items being installed.....rear sits the same, 26.75-26.875", but with approx five additional gallons of gas (now 3/4 full), the front sits 26.375".....my thought is that the lower front is simply due to the additional fuel weight and nothing else. Will probably go the route of coilovers to get the exact stance and ride I'm looking for and put the B6 and Eibach springs up for sale.
the one major positive up to now? I truly never worry about scraping when traversing driveways or the like.
edit: @VT Blue the more I drive it the more I think it is now stiffer than oem original pasm dampers when new.
the one major positive up to now? I truly never worry about scraping when traversing driveways or the like.
edit: @VT Blue the more I drive it the more I think it is now stiffer than oem original pasm dampers when new.
Last edited by oalvarez; Jun 3, 2023 at 04:05 PM.
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Thanks @oalvarez .
Anything to add about the ride and handling since your previous post? Any degradation in comfort versus the B4s?
Thx!
Bob
Anything to add about the ride and handling since your previous post? Any degradation in comfort versus the B4s?
Thx!
Bob