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Along with the 996 Turbo, the 996C4S has always maintained it's value and increased over time. C4S much much nicer body style design than the narrow body 996 and IMO better looking than the Turbo.
Can't stand those rear fender vent openings.
I think the Turbo and C4S will always be desirable and probably the only model to appreciate.
I agree that to some, the C4S and Turbo is what is best. But I also know that every time I see a narrow body car I tend to prefer them as they are a bit more simpler and classic even. Less in your face. I think that has appeal to others, not the hard core guys, but still enthusiast in their own right. I for example cant stand the 997 Turbo look also, it looks bloated all over the place. much prefer narrow body cars of 997 era too.
Originally Posted by Mike Murphy
That might be the case, but a new Porsche is always going to cost big dollars.
Yeah, the the new 911 is a beast of a car, even base carrera is 3s car, which is nuts. I don't know if this was the right way to go (instead of keeping prices ok) but 130k EUR for some base normal 911 is crazy high.
Well, if what many consider the ugliest car ever built is now appreciating, which car would you bet against possibly appreciating going forward? And the Aztec wasn't even a limited production car. Almost 120,000 sold in the US alone.
Up there among the best looking rear ends of 911's for sure. I still give a slight edge to non-wing 997 widebodies though and prefer those without the red reflector bar. I know others feel the same way and had the red bar painted to match the color of the car. Here's my long gone -06 C4S. My GTS looks the same with some minor differences.
This is an interesting discussion. I can't help but think the 996 will appreciate - solely because each generation does at some point.
TL;DR - every dog has its day.
Those of us who have been glued to 911s long enough can remember when [insert model variant here] was cheap. Whether due to being maligned for some undesirable or unreliable feature, or simply because we all forgot about them in favor of something else, there was a time when just about every "old" 911 was just an old car that wasn't an object of desire. I can personally recall passing on some really crazy values because something else was more compelling at the time... a sub 20k mile, 2 local owner 1984 Carrera for about $25K...in 2006, an impeccable 35K mile 993 C4 for about $30K in 2009, every 964 on the market around that same time. Now look what happened to each of those cars!
There will come a time when everything from the 996 era is back in fashion, just like every other retro-chasing trend. Don't be surprised when spiky bleached hair, ultra low cut jeans (with or without the tramp stamp) make a comeback, and Limp Bizkit and Britney Spears launch a sellout reunion tour!
All of that together with the fact that, even though there were a ton of 996s built, most have likely been neglected/abused/thrashed like the cheap cars that they have been for so long that there probably aren't a whole lot of really good ones left. Low miles, regularly maintained and left unmodified...you just don't see them too often and when you do, they're usually tiptronic and in an unfortunate color or something.
Frankly, I think the fried egg lights and odd interior may be starting to stand out as a unique period in Porsche history now. The "last of the..." and "the only one that had..." magnets for old Porsche fans are strong indeed... Plus, these days when you see that very small, relative to modern standards, car in traffic it begins to take on a new persona in my mind at least.
Is nice that there is a thread like this. As a matter of fact, the 996 market already bottomed out and is coming back up.
A decade ago when my father wanted to sell his 996 turbo, the general market was demanding only 35,000 Canadian for it. That was back in 2010 and his car was single owner with 60,000km. Fortunately its been kept in the family and now is tastefully modified, but that is in a story of its own.
Nowadays 996 TT are asking well over 60,000 CAD with higher mileage or even 90,000 CAD for lower milage
This is not only with turbo, as I have paying attention with the market. The general 996 market have been going up dramatically since end of 2020. With regular 996.1 C2 manual now selling into the mid 40s. When these cars 2 years back was selling 20s. One Porsche dealership used 996.2 with 118,000km manual selling for $40G
Since most if the manual coupes are less in the market, the convertible variant is also raised in prices. Ranging from 30s to 40s and some even automatic.
Not gonna lie but a 996 4S with a drop on turbo twist looks very proper. I believe 996 GT3, Turbo and 4S' will be good purchases. They may not be heavily sought after but will hold their value.
Not gonna lie but a 996 4S with a drop on turbo twist looks very proper. I believe 996 GT3, Turbo and 4S' will be good purchases. They may not be heavily sought after but will hold their value.
I would agree.
Those are the least offensive looking 996's I think.
Yes, all the water cooled Porsches are going up in value. The 997.2 will hold a slight premium over the 997.1 and 996. The 996s being the lowest value in this class should have the most to appreciate in the future. The 997.2s were sold in a post recession period and sales of expensive models are sometimes more numerous than less expensive models, in other words the wealthy were still buying higher end cars. I have a 2011 997.2 C2S coupe. From "Porsche 997, The Essential Companion" book, here are some total factory production numbers for 2011 for reference;
Carrera Coupe 840
Carrer S Coupe 849
Coupe Black Edition 1038
Carrera GTS Coupe 2265
Carrera GTS Cab. 1542
Carrera Cab. 453
Carrera S Cab. 796
GT3 3
GT3 RS 100
GT3 RS 4.0 550
Turbo Coupe 528
Turbo S Coupe 1180
If rarity is a major factor in the future, then the Carreras may gain in value against the higher end models.
Any info regarding how many of the 997.2's were manual transmission? I have a 2010 Carrera S manual and curious how many were produced.
The numbers I've seen in a number of articles and commentaries since the PDK was introduced 2009 have been pretty consistent at about 80% PDK and 20% manuals produced. Don't know how accurate that is but seems pretty much in line with what's available for sale. Don't know how many 2010 C2S's were produced but if you can dig that number up, multiply by 0.2 and you should get a fairly good idea.
02-05-2020, 11:47 PM
