Chasing Manual Transmission Bliss
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GoldenGorilla (10-25-2019)
#47
Quick update on my 1-2 shift grind when cold.
- As i noted before, changing engine mounts did not do anything to improve this.
- I replaced the transmission fluid today with PTX. Still very slightly balky from first to second when cold, but the grind appears to be gone. Shifts are buttery otherwise, and once warm all good.
Either way... sorry you have not found shifting bliss just yet... Do you have a short shift kit installed?
edit...sorry about all my typos as well... late night speed typing gets me everytime
Last edited by qikqbn; 10-24-2019 at 05:51 PM.
#48
no short shifter: shifter, cables, tranny, mounts are all stock. I am quite happy with how it shifts. The OP is seeking Bliss. I can live with "just" Great. When I say slightly balky, i mean the first 2 or 3 shifts. Within 3-4 minutes, smooth as silk, all gears. It's all good to me.
#49
Quick update on my 1-2 shift grind when cold.
- As i noted before, changing engine mounts did not do anything to improve this.
- I replaced the transmission fluid today with PTX. Still very slightly balky from first to second when cold, but the grind appears to be gone. Shifts are buttery otherwise, and once warm all good.
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TheTorch (10-24-2019)
#50
That's why any workshops should always have a metal bin to dispose all oily rags and that includes garages for the DIYers.
https://www.teck.com/media/Sulfur.pdf
#52
The S2000 has about the best shifter out of any stock vehicle. If that is what your comparing it to, you going to be disappointed. And calling an S2k "just a honda" is a little short sighted as Honda used a lot of what they learned about the NSX for the S2k. Infact, I have a buddy who has 2 NSX (one is a Type R) and an S2000 and he says the S is actually a better car to drive. Im familiar with both cars and the 911 wont shift as well, it just wont, BUT nothing else will either
#53
Frankly, I never mentioned the S2000 and I understand the gearbox accepted as one of the best. I believe another user mentioned above after I said Honda. I thought it was widely known that Honda's have great shifter feel & feedback for the price. If that's not the case - This is what I meant by the statement of comparing it to a Honda.
#54
Having owned a few S2000 and NSX's. The transmissions are notchy until up to temperature. Then become buttery smooth. My 06 997 seems to be the same way. Once up to temperature the transmission becomes very smooth. It's almost like the cars are talking to you. Telling you, she is ready to go!
#55
Redrag - I hear the word notchy often when defining shifting feel, in fact I've used it myself. My "notchy" feeling actually pushes the gear shifter back up towards neutral. I assume that is not the same feeling you are describing?
#58
I have a 997.2 6 MT, which is primarily a track car. WRT to the shifter/transmission feel my car has RSS motor mounts, FF transmission mount inserts (black), 996 Cup car shift cables, Aasco LWFW and 997.2 GT3 RS shifter (has metal bushings). I also have been using Mobil 1 Delvac 75w-90 gearbox fluid.
When the car is cold (start driving within about 5 minutes of start up) 1st to 2nd doesn't feel great, I can feel a noticeable mechanical almost metal on metal feel. I noticed that when I shift from 1st to 2nd and the car is cold, if I follow this sequence, it feels great:
1. Car moving in 1st gear
2. Clutch in
3. Move gear selector to neutral
4. While in neutral, move selector left then right, don't move so far left as to if trying to engage reverse
5. Move gear selector to 2nd gear, feels great.
Once the car and all fluids are warmed up, I don't have any issues. Sometimes, I'll experience some hesitation getting into 1st from a stop light, but that is about it.
I also change my gearbox fluid every 6-8 track days, which amount to ~ 1200 miles max.
My only complaint is that while on track, even with the black FF inserts, I feel there is still too much movement, and would like something even stiffer. So far in the car's 42k miles, I've sent my gearbox fluid to Blackstone for analysis once and the report noted that they were very surprised by the low wear metals for the sample being transmission gear box oil and for the vehicle being a track car.
When the car is cold (start driving within about 5 minutes of start up) 1st to 2nd doesn't feel great, I can feel a noticeable mechanical almost metal on metal feel. I noticed that when I shift from 1st to 2nd and the car is cold, if I follow this sequence, it feels great:
1. Car moving in 1st gear
2. Clutch in
3. Move gear selector to neutral
4. While in neutral, move selector left then right, don't move so far left as to if trying to engage reverse
5. Move gear selector to 2nd gear, feels great.
Once the car and all fluids are warmed up, I don't have any issues. Sometimes, I'll experience some hesitation getting into 1st from a stop light, but that is about it.
I also change my gearbox fluid every 6-8 track days, which amount to ~ 1200 miles max.
My only complaint is that while on track, even with the black FF inserts, I feel there is still too much movement, and would like something even stiffer. So far in the car's 42k miles, I've sent my gearbox fluid to Blackstone for analysis once and the report noted that they were very surprised by the low wear metals for the sample being transmission gear box oil and for the vehicle being a track car.
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Hindsight2010 (10-25-2019)
#60
But I have PTX in my fire cabinet for my 60K service this winter, so I'll get to know that smell soon.