An embarrasing confession. I am not healthy enough to drive a Porsche
06-08-2019, 08:12 PM
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Quick update - I've been considering every comment and piece of advice posted so thank you for that and for support in general. It may be possible to use technique to game this but at the root I want to stay focused on the health and fitness angle then apply any tips and techniques later.
# 1 I got a Dragy and looked at Porsche g forces. They often hit 2gs + so the forces are about double what I believed. At the same time, I am not going nearly that hard so it might be as low as 1.2 for me. I intend to use the Dragy to record myself and the moment/conditions (G forces where it's happening and where I am capable of staying under with no ill effects. In my case improved health and fitness should result in more tolerance to the G forces. I'll have to ask my accountant if I can count the Dragy as a medical expense???
#2 Down 15lbs as of this AM. I am super disciplined at this diet and it is making all of the difference. It's easy too. No hunger, no cravings, easy to fast 19-23 hours a day. At breakfast this AM I told my wife what a 'bad day' used to be as far as eating goes. In summary - it was all airport calories (you know the kind that don't count when you're about to fly somewhere because you could die in a fiery plane crash? ) Now I am passing by all of these 'temptations' and have removed most of them from the house. She said something pretty smart "You'll never be able to get rid of all of the temptations so you have to rely on your discipline."
Meals are simple now - 4 strips of bacon, 2 eggs, black coffee for breakfast at about 7 AM. Before noon, about 8 oz of protein and all of the broccoli, green salad, cucumbers I want. Drinking about 6 liters of water a day. Typically broccoli because it's become my favorite thing to eat now. That's it. No cheating, no diet sodas, no fast food options, no snacks.
Blood sugar readings are all in 80s and after a meal no greater than 120. I had type 2 diabetes for more than a decade and it is gone. No more blood sugar meds and really no more need to stick myself and take measurements unless I am curious or feeling like it might be too low. Now that I am off the meds, I don't think I'll see the 70s and 60s (where hypoglycemia is a problem) anymore. Body is working fine.
# 1 I got a Dragy and looked at Porsche g forces. They often hit 2gs + so the forces are about double what I believed. At the same time, I am not going nearly that hard so it might be as low as 1.2 for me. I intend to use the Dragy to record myself and the moment/conditions (G forces where it's happening and where I am capable of staying under with no ill effects. In my case improved health and fitness should result in more tolerance to the G forces. I'll have to ask my accountant if I can count the Dragy as a medical expense???
#2 Down 15lbs as of this AM. I am super disciplined at this diet and it is making all of the difference. It's easy too. No hunger, no cravings, easy to fast 19-23 hours a day. At breakfast this AM I told my wife what a 'bad day' used to be as far as eating goes. In summary - it was all airport calories (you know the kind that don't count when you're about to fly somewhere because you could die in a fiery plane crash? ) Now I am passing by all of these 'temptations' and have removed most of them from the house. She said something pretty smart "You'll never be able to get rid of all of the temptations so you have to rely on your discipline."
Meals are simple now - 4 strips of bacon, 2 eggs, black coffee for breakfast at about 7 AM. Before noon, about 8 oz of protein and all of the broccoli, green salad, cucumbers I want. Drinking about 6 liters of water a day. Typically broccoli because it's become my favorite thing to eat now. That's it. No cheating, no diet sodas, no fast food options, no snacks.
Blood sugar readings are all in 80s and after a meal no greater than 120. I had type 2 diabetes for more than a decade and it is gone. No more blood sugar meds and really no more need to stick myself and take measurements unless I am curious or feeling like it might be too low. Now that I am off the meds, I don't think I'll see the 70s and 60s (where hypoglycemia is a problem) anymore. Body is working fine.
You're numbers sound to be doing good. Diet and exercise will do that for almost anyone, so hopefully you can keep it up. I'm a skeptic on whether eating bacon and eggs is consistent with improving health. I eat bacon and eggs every few weeks when we do a breakfast for dinner night. So I'm not a bacon shamer. Eating like that regularly increases the risk of heart disease and stroke and cancer.
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MexicoBlueTurboS (09-01-2019)
06-09-2019, 01:31 PM
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I haven't seen 2 G for a TT or TTS in any prior publication. That's alot. A few people claim 1.3-1.4 G from stop using launch control, less for roll on, on 6speedonline anyway. Some of them had tunes and extra sticky tires or were at drag strip.
You're numbers sound to be doing good. Diet and exercise will do that for almost anyone, so hopefully you can keep it up. I'm a skeptic on whether eating bacon and eggs is consistent with improving health. I eat bacon and eggs every few weeks when we do a breakfast for dinner night. So I'm not a bacon shamer. Eating like that regularly increases the risk of heart disease and stroke and cancer.
You're numbers sound to be doing good. Diet and exercise will do that for almost anyone, so hopefully you can keep it up. I'm a skeptic on whether eating bacon and eggs is consistent with improving health. I eat bacon and eggs every few weeks when we do a breakfast for dinner night. So I'm not a bacon shamer. Eating like that regularly increases the risk of heart disease and stroke and cancer.
I totally agree - this is not a healthy long term diet for anyone - but it is in the short run while I fix my chemistry to not run on sugar or be insulin resistant (successful so far) and to tighten up my discipline and habits around eating. Part of the problem is that I used to race bicycles and would eat from 8000-12,000 calories a day while maintaining less than 3% body fat as measured at the Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs. No food discipline at all because I didn't need any. Like many cyclists we joked - "Do we eat so much because we ride so much or do we ride so much because we eat so much?" For most of us the problem was eating enough.
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06-09-2019, 04:23 PM
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Good update. I think you're on the right track with your health.
I dont recall if you mentioned your resting blood pressure, but one of the other posters above mentioned orthostattic hypotension. I did some Googling on this and wanted to share some other thoughts/observations:
Like you, my diet is low carb - - what you describe as your current meal regime is similar to mine for the past 3 years. My mother also has done a similar diet for about the same time. Interestingly, she does ballroom dancing and said she's had trouble with dizziness from spins and twirls. She discovered that drinking more water before dancing makes a big difference in her resistance to getting dizzy.
Relatedly, internet serches suggest that ketogenic diets, diabetes meds, blood thinners and BP meds (obviously) can reduce blood pressure and may increase dizziness.
So you may want to discuss with your doctor strategies that also maintain adequate BP (assuming yours might now be on the lower side).
Such strategies could include:
- whole body weight training to help improve muscle tone
- Tapering/reduction of meds that reduce BP or have dizziness as a side effect
- At 6 liters/day of fluid intake (which seems like a lot, potentially too much), you should be fine, but consider upping your electrolytes to help maintain BP. In particular keto diets may require higher salt intakes (sodium, potassium, and magnesium).
By way of another personal example, I like to run for exercise, but one tends to sweat a lot in the Houston summer heat. I feel much better rehydrating with a salted glass of water with lime juice. I also salt my food and supplement with potassium and magnesium. Despite my increased salt intake, my BP is lower on low-carb than it was pre diet: resting of 115/65 now versus 125/80 previously.
Might be worth looking into with your doctor.
I dont recall if you mentioned your resting blood pressure, but one of the other posters above mentioned orthostattic hypotension. I did some Googling on this and wanted to share some other thoughts/observations:
Like you, my diet is low carb - - what you describe as your current meal regime is similar to mine for the past 3 years. My mother also has done a similar diet for about the same time. Interestingly, she does ballroom dancing and said she's had trouble with dizziness from spins and twirls. She discovered that drinking more water before dancing makes a big difference in her resistance to getting dizzy.
Relatedly, internet serches suggest that ketogenic diets, diabetes meds, blood thinners and BP meds (obviously) can reduce blood pressure and may increase dizziness.
So you may want to discuss with your doctor strategies that also maintain adequate BP (assuming yours might now be on the lower side).
Such strategies could include:
- whole body weight training to help improve muscle tone
- Tapering/reduction of meds that reduce BP or have dizziness as a side effect
- At 6 liters/day of fluid intake (which seems like a lot, potentially too much), you should be fine, but consider upping your electrolytes to help maintain BP. In particular keto diets may require higher salt intakes (sodium, potassium, and magnesium).
By way of another personal example, I like to run for exercise, but one tends to sweat a lot in the Houston summer heat. I feel much better rehydrating with a salted glass of water with lime juice. I also salt my food and supplement with potassium and magnesium. Despite my increased salt intake, my BP is lower on low-carb than it was pre diet: resting of 115/65 now versus 125/80 previously.
Might be worth looking into with your doctor.
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MexicoBlueTurboS (08-21-2019)
06-10-2019, 10:49 AM
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Brainz - thank you for the guidance. As a note the near blackouts ( G-force induced loss of consciousness, G-LOC) occurred before I started the KETO and in fact were the wake up call of evidence that my health and eating habits were no longer sustainable.
I have high BP. 3 years ago - deadly high. I was having these headaches and went to a headache specialist - at the start of the appt. they measure my BP and told me - go to the emergency room right now. 219/170 - I've been on the meds ever since.
I monitor BP 3X a day (currently on meds and typically 130/80) but hoping that the lower insulin and increased activity combined with weight loss will allow me to get off meds. It just takes time. I may need to increase water intake but last night (TMI moment coming) was the first night in 15 years I slept 8 hours without having to get up to use the bathroom. Not because of lack of water (~4 liters a day currently) but because I am not drinking diet sodas or anything besides 1 black coffee in the AM and water all day.
Some additional guidance from others here (I really should join a keto forum and not bother the 997 forum so much) has inspired me to change my diet further and try alternatives to my breakfast - like a small piece of fish and green vegetables. For the most part my hunger is completely absent and I think I can get by with one meal a day and 23.5 hour IF. I'll be testing that tomorrow as I have an early appt to get brake fluid done and have mechanic create a to-do list for the car.
I have high BP. 3 years ago - deadly high. I was having these headaches and went to a headache specialist - at the start of the appt. they measure my BP and told me - go to the emergency room right now. 219/170 - I've been on the meds ever since.
I monitor BP 3X a day (currently on meds and typically 130/80) but hoping that the lower insulin and increased activity combined with weight loss will allow me to get off meds. It just takes time. I may need to increase water intake but last night (TMI moment coming) was the first night in 15 years I slept 8 hours without having to get up to use the bathroom. Not because of lack of water (~4 liters a day currently) but because I am not drinking diet sodas or anything besides 1 black coffee in the AM and water all day.
Some additional guidance from others here (I really should join a keto forum and not bother the 997 forum so much) has inspired me to change my diet further and try alternatives to my breakfast - like a small piece of fish and green vegetables. For the most part my hunger is completely absent and I think I can get by with one meal a day and 23.5 hour IF. I'll be testing that tomorrow as I have an early appt to get brake fluid done and have mechanic create a to-do list for the car.
06-10-2019, 07:13 PM
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You're coming from some serious health issues. I'm a big fan of low-carb diets, but mine was for many other [realized] benefits other than diabetes and high BP (energy, allergies, brain fog, anxiety, etc). Given the severity of your prior medical condition, I'd want regular monitoring of any diet changes by a physician (which it sounds like you've got covered). Some of the keto forums may be overly focused on weight loss -- you might want to search around for one more focused on maintaining glycemic control and low BP. Best wishes to you and be well. Keep us posted on your progress.
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MexicoBlueTurboS (08-21-2019)
06-10-2019, 09:17 PM
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I am 39, was over-weight for years due to corporate lifestyle, travel, lots of plane food and junk and a heavy carb diet... last year, I went on "modified Keto diet", which is Keto with added protein and ton of vegetables, I lost 60 pounds! My blood work has all come back to normal, and I've kept 50pounds of that off within the year, cannot be happier, haven't been this size or as healthy since I was 28yrs old, and I also look better driving the Porsche! I highly recommend Keto diet with added protein and vegetables, and low carb diet in general! Could save your life!
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MexicoBlueTurboS (08-21-2019)
06-10-2019, 11:41 PM
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Forget "looking better driving a Porsche." I bet, all other things equal, your car is considerably more zippy by taking 60 lbs. out of it! Porsche swoons when they manage to take out 2-3 lbs. here and there. Maybe now people really don't have a chance to see your new physique -- because by the time they look, you're gone!
08-21-2019, 01:42 PM
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I did the paleo diet a few years ago and accidentally ate some potato salad 2 weeks into it (I didnt realize at the time potatos were the worst thing to eat in terms of glycemic index). Anyway, I broke out in a sweat and my whole body ached, so much so I had to go home from work. From that day I realized I had just become de-sensitized to what sugars/carbs had been doing to my body over the years. I would feel like crap after eating a bowl of pasta or pizza but just figured I over ate.
I no longer follow that diet religiously but I cant go back to eating high carb foods. If I do (pasta, pizza, French fries = the worst, bagels, certain beers, etc) my joints ache and I get in a really bad mood.
And as for the myth that you need a high carb diet for sports, totally agree, it's nonsense. I run marathons and I've gained far more endurance after removing carbs from my diet. From my limited understanding on how it all works ive trained my body to burn fat more efficiently on long runs. When I first started running I would eat a bunch of carbs before and hit the wall hard when those were burned up.
Get better and thanks for sharing.
I no longer follow that diet religiously but I cant go back to eating high carb foods. If I do (pasta, pizza, French fries = the worst, bagels, certain beers, etc) my joints ache and I get in a really bad mood.
And as for the myth that you need a high carb diet for sports, totally agree, it's nonsense. I run marathons and I've gained far more endurance after removing carbs from my diet. From my limited understanding on how it all works ive trained my body to burn fat more efficiently on long runs. When I first started running I would eat a bunch of carbs before and hit the wall hard when those were burned up.
Get better and thanks for sharing.
One of the tests I want to take but can not is called the "Kraft Prediabetes Profile" but it requires that one eat 150gms of carbs daily for 2 weeks before you take the test to look at insulin responses to a glucose solution. No fat adapted person could or should want to do this. Better once fat adapted to test fasting insulin - you're probably OK if you've been more than a year on keto/zero carb.
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TheBruce (08-21-2019)
08-21-2019, 03:02 PM
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# 1 I got a Dragy and looked at Porsche g forces. They often hit 2gs + so the forces are about double what I believed. At the same time, I am not going nearly that hard so it might be as low as 1.2 for me. I intend to use the Dragy to record myself and the moment/conditions (G forces where it's happening and where I am capable of staying under with no ill effects. In my case improved health and fitness should result in more tolerance to the G forces. I'll have to ask my accountant if I can count the Dragy as a medical expense???
Further, you have stated in other posts that you experience your issues at the top of second gear and into third gear where the G forces are obviously lower than from 0-60 due to exponential drag from wind resistance and lower mechanical advantage from gearing as speeds increase. Between that and the fact that you do not experience any issues at take off on a plane where the G forces are in the 1.3-1.5G range, I think it is clear that your issue is not related specifically to G-forces under acceleration. Hopefully that allows you to focus your efforts to identify and solve for the blackouts you are experiencing.
-Mark
08-21-2019, 03:04 PM
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I feel much better rehydrating with a salted glass of water with lime juice. I also salt my food and supplement with potassium and magnesium. Despite my increased salt intake, my BP is lower on low-carb than it was pre diet: resting of 115/65 now versus 125/80 previously. Might be worth looking into with your doctor.
I did some genetic testing and found out I have multiple genes/SNPs that reduce my absorption of Vitamin D, zinc and choline, so I am now supplementing those.
Salt isn't bad for you, neither is caffeine, cholesterol or sunshine. Just BS we've been fed over and over.
08-21-2019, 03:07 PM
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Sorry but this is simply not possible, if your unit is reporting 2+ G then please return it as it is broken - your car does not generate 2G of pure straightline acceleration at any speed. As has been stated, a Tesla generates a scientifically documented 1.12G from 0-60 with a ~2.7s 0-60 time, for you to generate 2+ G would require a car doing far sub 2 seconds 0-60.
Further, you have stated in other posts that you experience your issues at the top of second gear and into third gear where the G forces are obviously lower than from 0-60 due to exponential drag from wind resistance and lower mechanical advantage from gearing as speeds increase. Between that and the fact that you do not experience any issues at take off on a plane where the G forces are in the 1.3-1.5G range, I think it is clear that your issue is not related specifically to G-forces under acceleration. Hopefully that allows you to focus your efforts to identify and solve for the blackouts you are experiencing.
-Mark
Further, you have stated in other posts that you experience your issues at the top of second gear and into third gear where the G forces are obviously lower than from 0-60 due to exponential drag from wind resistance and lower mechanical advantage from gearing as speeds increase. Between that and the fact that you do not experience any issues at take off on a plane where the G forces are in the 1.3-1.5G range, I think it is clear that your issue is not related specifically to G-forces under acceleration. Hopefully that allows you to focus your efforts to identify and solve for the blackouts you are experiencing.
-Mark
Mark, I was looking at other Dragy results from much faster Porsches at that time. They showed that the highest g's weren't at initial acceleration but in that 50-70 mph zone. It's possible I may have misunderstood them. I am unable to even come close to those numbers (me or my car).
This guy also thinks it happens at initial acceleration but also thinks it could be more than 2g. My g-LOC happens around 50-70 so it could just be an accumulative effect. I don't do dead stop launches on my car.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-ma...r-when-floored
I'll look to see if I can find the Porsche dragy data again.
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08-21-2019, 03:17 PM
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I haven't seen 2 G for a TT or TTS in any prior publication. That's alot. A few people claim 1.3-1.4 G from stop using launch control, less for roll on, on 6speedonline anyway. Some of them had tunes and extra sticky tires or were at drag strip.
You're numbers sound to be doing good. Diet and exercise will do that for almost anyone, so hopefully you can keep it up. I'm a skeptic on whether eating bacon and eggs is consistent with improving health. I eat bacon and eggs every few weeks when we do a breakfast for dinner night. So I'm not a bacon shamer. Eating like that regularly increases the risk of heart disease and stroke and cancer.
You're numbers sound to be doing good. Diet and exercise will do that for almost anyone, so hopefully you can keep it up. I'm a skeptic on whether eating bacon and eggs is consistent with improving health. I eat bacon and eggs every few weeks when we do a breakfast for dinner night. So I'm not a bacon shamer. Eating like that regularly increases the risk of heart disease and stroke and cancer.
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02-21-2020, 10:47 PM
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