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Old 07-04-2021 | 12:50 PM
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Congrats JV, I was on vacation, Wow 78k!

Everyone's favorite color, manual, low miles, .2 vs Base , low options, carfax story. My gut tells me $59,500 but my BAT colored glasses say add $5k. I'm going with my gut. $59.5k

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...a-cabriolet-7/

“FEQUENTLY” FORGOTTEN RULES
1--->$250 minimum bid spread
2--->Bids must be placed 48 hours before auction ends. One "mulligan" late guess per person if you forget


Guesses:
$57,000 - jimfuerst

$58,000 - JVinPortland
$58,750 - groovzilla
$59,500 - JRBucks
$61,000 - linderpat
$62,000 - Powderjunkie
$63,000 - boisenelson
$64,000 - street rod
$65,000 - Fracture
$66,000 - floatingfish
$67,000 - southbay
$69,000 - Wolfsburgde

$70,000 - GPappy
$72,750 - 8KaboveMSL

$73,250 - bheit1
Wins:
Big Swole = 12
Bloose993TT = 9
Vincent713 = 9

street rod = 8
groovzilla = 7
bgoetz = 6
linderpat = 6
Wolfsburgde = 6
floatingfish = 6
GPappy = 5
JVinPortland = 5

jimfuerst = 4
Kellen = 3
hatchetf15 = 3
VT Blue = 3
Samimi = 3
TheTorch = 3

Jeebus31 = 2
3404 = 2
ThunderRolls = 2
ilovemaui = 2
southbay = 2
ManoTexas = 2
roadie13 = 2
Fracture = 2
8KaboveMSL = 2
PowderJunkie = 2

Bronz = 1
zygomatic = 1
driggity = 1
C4S Dayton = 1
Hindsight2010 = 1
UnoMas = 1
Catharpin = 1
Alfnado = 1
arscottp = 1
bzcat = 1
Nein Elf = 1
Optionman1 = 1

Snakesm13 = 1
tinroof = 1

Old 07-04-2021 | 06:13 PM
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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...a-cabriolet-7/

“FEQUENTLY” FORGOTTEN RULES
1--->$250 minimum bid spread
2--->Bids must be placed 48 hours before auction ends. One "mulligan" late guess per person if you forget


Guesses:
$57,000 - jimfuerst

$58,000 - JVinPortland
$58,750 - groovzilla
$59,500 - JRBucks
$61,000 - linderpat
$62,000 - Powderjunkie
$63,000 - boisenelson
$64,000 - street rod
$65,000 - Fracture
$66,000 - floatingfish
$67,000 - southbay
$67,250 - ManoTexas
$69,000 - Wolfsburgde

$70,000 - GPappy
$72,750 - 8KaboveMSL

$73,250 - bheit1
Wins:
Big Swole = 12
Bloose993TT = 9
Vincent713 = 9

street rod = 8
groovzilla = 7
bgoetz = 6
linderpat = 6
Wolfsburgde = 6
floatingfish = 6
GPappy = 5
JVinPortland = 5

jimfuerst = 4
Kellen = 3
hatchetf15 = 3
VT Blue = 3
Samimi = 3
TheTorch = 3

Jeebus31 = 2
3404 = 2
ThunderRolls = 2
ilovemaui = 2
southbay = 2
ManoTexas = 2
roadie13 = 2
Fracture = 2
8KaboveMSL = 2
PowderJunkie = 2

Bronz = 1
zygomatic = 1
driggity = 1
C4S Dayton = 1
Hindsight2010 = 1
UnoMas = 1
Catharpin = 1
Alfnado = 1
arscottp = 1
bzcat = 1
Nein Elf = 1
Optionman1 = 1

Snakesm13 = 1
tinroof = 1
Old 07-04-2021 | 06:47 PM
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NOTICE:
When I win this one, I'm putting this one up next: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...1-speedster-5/
....so no complaining about the quick turn!



back to your regularly scheduled Auction thread.....

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...a-cabriolet-7/

“FEQUENTLY” FORGOTTEN RULES
1--->$250 minimum bid spread
2--->Bids must be placed 48 hours before auction ends. One "mulligan" late guess per person if you forget


Guesses:
$57,000 - jimfuerst

$58,000 - JVinPortland
$58,750 - groovzilla
$59,500 - JRBucks
$61,000 - linderpat
$62,000 - Powderjunkie
$63,000 - boisenelson
$64,000 - street rod
$65,000 - Fracture
$66,000 - floatingfish
$67,000 - southbay
$67,250 - ManoTexas
$69,000 - Wolfsburgde

$70,000 - GPappy
$72,750 - 8KaboveMSL

$73,250 - bheit1
Wins:
Big Swole = 12
Bloose993TT = 9
Vincent713 = 9

street rod = 8
groovzilla = 7
bgoetz = 6
linderpat = 6
Wolfsburgde = 6
floatingfish = 6
GPappy = 5
JVinPortland = 5

jimfuerst = 4
Kellen = 3
hatchetf15 = 3
VT Blue = 3
Samimi = 3
TheTorch = 3

Jeebus31 = 2
3404 = 2
ThunderRolls = 2
ilovemaui = 2
southbay = 2
ManoTexas = 2
roadie13 = 2
Fracture = 2
8KaboveMSL = 2
PowderJunkie = 2

Bronz = 1
zygomatic = 1
driggity = 1
C4S Dayton = 1
Hindsight2010 = 1
UnoMas = 1
Catharpin = 1
Alfnado = 1
arscottp = 1
bzcat = 1
Nein Elf = 1
Optionman1 = 1

Snakesm13 = 1
tinroof = 1
Old 07-05-2021 | 11:52 AM
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Vanilla silver rag top 3.6. $48,... only 20k miles?...manual?...2021 crazed market? One milli...ok, 80,000. Actually trying to suss out a real number, for me, has been nigh impossible this year. $80,000

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...a-cabriolet-7/

“FEQUENTLY” FORGOTTEN RULES
1--->$250 minimum bid spread
2--->Bids must be placed 48 hours before auction ends. One "mulligan" late guess per person if you forget


Guesses:
$57,000 - jimfuerst

$58,000 - JVinPortland
$58,750 - groovzilla
$59,500 - JRBucks
$61,000 - linderpat
$62,000 - Powderjunkie
$63,000 - boisenelson
$64,000 - street rod
$65,000 - Fracture
$66,000 - floatingfish
$67,000 - southbay
$67,250 - ManoTexas
$69,000 - Wolfsburgde

$70,000 - GPappy
$72,750 - 8KaboveMSL

$73,250 - bheit1
$80,000 - hatchetf15



Wins:
Big Swole = 12
Bloose993TT = 9
Vincent713 = 9

street rod = 8
groovzilla = 7
bgoetz = 6
linderpat = 6
Wolfsburgde = 6
floatingfish = 6
GPappy = 5
JVinPortland = 5

jimfuerst = 4
Kellen = 3
hatchetf15 = 3
VT Blue = 3
Samimi = 3
TheTorch = 3

Jeebus31 = 2
3404 = 2
ThunderRolls = 2
ilovemaui = 2
southbay = 2
ManoTexas = 2
roadie13 = 2
Fracture = 2
8KaboveMSL = 2
PowderJunkie = 2

Bronz = 1
zygomatic = 1
driggity = 1
C4S Dayton = 1
Hindsight2010 = 1
UnoMas = 1
Catharpin = 1
Alfnado = 1
arscottp = 1
bzcat = 1
Nein Elf = 1
Optionman1 = 1

Snakesm13 = 1
tinroof = 1

Old 07-05-2021 | 03:40 PM
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Tinroof goes low at $56,500 Doesn't seem to be a great deal of interest in this auction with 2 days left. We'll see!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...a-cabriolet-7/

“FEQUENTLY” FORGOTTEN RULES
1--->$250 minimum bid spread
2--->Bids must be placed 48 hours before auction ends. One "mulligan" late guess per person if you forget


Guesses:
$56,500 - tinroof
$57,000 - jimfuerst

$58,000 - JVinPortland
$58,750 - groovzilla
$59,500 - JRBucks
$61,000 - linderpat
$62,000 - Powderjunkie
$63,000 - boisenelson
$64,000 - street rod
$65,000 - Fracture
$66,000 - floatingfish
$67,000 - southbay
$67,250 - ManoTexas
$69,000 - Wolfsburgde

$70,000 - GPappy
$72,750 - 8KaboveMSL

$73,250 - bheit1
$80,000 - hatchetf15



Wins:
Big Swole = 12
Bloose993TT = 9
Vincent713 = 9

street rod = 8
groovzilla = 7
bgoetz = 6
linderpat = 6
Wolfsburgde = 6
floatingfish = 6
GPappy = 5
JVinPortland = 5

jimfuerst = 4
Kellen = 3
hatchetf15 = 3
VT Blue = 3
Samimi = 3
TheTorch = 3

Jeebus31 = 2
3404 = 2
ThunderRolls = 2
ilovemaui = 2
southbay = 2
ManoTexas = 2
roadie13 = 2
Fracture = 2
8KaboveMSL = 2
PowderJunkie = 2

Bronz = 1
zygomatic = 1
driggity = 1
C4S Dayton = 1
Hindsight2010 = 1
UnoMas = 1
Catharpin = 1
Alfnado = 1
arscottp = 1
bzcat = 1
Nein Elf = 1
Optionman1 = 1

Snakesm13 = 1
tinroof = 1
Old 07-05-2021 | 08:02 PM
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$56,500 low, haha. In 2017/2018, this car was at best a $45k car and perhaps lower if prior damage of any kind. Not a good sign if a car like this hits anything above $55k or $60k. Currency issue because these base cars are not even remotely worth that price under healthy economic conditions. Speachless on the price on that 997.1 4S cabriolet. Some huge underlying issues driving that ship as these cars are NOT remotely worth that price with a healthy dollar.
Old 07-05-2021 | 10:19 PM
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I couldn’t believe that C4s went for 50k. What is happening? There is one on eBay right now I might buy just to put it on BaT.

Originally Posted by Doug H
$56,500 low, haha. In 2017/2018, this car was at best a $45k car and perhaps lower if prior damage of any kind. Not a good sign if a car like this hits anything above $55k or $60k. Currency issue because these base cars are not even remotely worth that price under healthy economic conditions. Speachless on the price on that 997.1 4S cabriolet. Some huge underlying issues driving that ship as these cars are NOT remotely worth that price with a healthy dollar.
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Old 07-05-2021 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug H
$56,500 low, haha. In 2017/2018, this car was at best a $45k car and perhaps lower if prior damage of any kind. Not a good sign if a car like this hits anything above $55k or $60k. Currency issue because these base cars are not even remotely worth that price under healthy economic conditions. Speachless on the price on that 997.1 4S cabriolet. Some huge underlying issues driving that ship as these cars are NOT remotely worth that price with a healthy dollar.
Doug,

I know the thesis of a less strong dollar was likely one of the factors you considered as part of the decision to move out of the country. That may very well wind up being the case, but I am not sure the 997 market is necessarily a data point that supports the thesis. An alternative explanation is that we have unparalleled wealth concentration in this country and some of those people who benefit from the wealth concentration want to buy 997s. Why not? They have the disposable income which they likely earned in some form or fashion. Why not spend it how you want to? My gut is that supply/demand imbalances in this super niche market explain more of the price dynamics than any real macro trend, aside from the concentration of wealth that enables some folks to have a lot more disposable income than others.

In the end you may be spot on w/ your analysis, but the dynamics of the 6MT 997 market are not likely an important data point that can be used to either prove or disprove your hypothesis.

glad I got in when I did though and I am pretty sure a lot people feel that way about whichever 997 they currently own, especially if it is a 6MT.
Old 07-05-2021 | 10:57 PM
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Re posting for reference only. Good luck to everyone tomorrow!

BTW auction has over 1k watchers, so probably some players lurking in the weeds hoping for a good price!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...a-cabriolet-7/

“FEQUENTLY” FORGOTTEN RULES
1--->$250 minimum bid spread
2--->Bids must be placed 48 hours before auction ends. One "mulligan" late guess per person if you forget


Guesses:
$56,500 - tinroof
$57,000 - jimfuerst

$58,000 - JVinPortland
$58,750 - groovzilla
$59,500 - JRBucks
$61,000 - linderpat
$62,000 - Powderjunkie
$63,000 - boisenelson
$64,000 - street rod
$65,000 - Fracture
$66,000 - floatingfish
$67,000 - southbay
$67,250 - ManoTexas
$69,000 - Wolfsburgde

$70,000 - GPappy
$72,750 - 8KaboveMSL

$73,250 - bheit1
$80,000 - hatchetf15



Wins:
Big Swole = 12
Bloose993TT = 9
Vincent713 = 9

street rod = 8
groovzilla = 7
bgoetz = 6
linderpat = 6
Wolfsburgde = 6
floatingfish = 6
GPappy = 5
JVinPortland = 5

jimfuerst = 4
Kellen = 3
hatchetf15 = 3
VT Blue = 3
Samimi = 3
TheTorch = 3

Jeebus31 = 2
3404 = 2
ThunderRolls = 2
ilovemaui = 2
southbay = 2
ManoTexas = 2
roadie13 = 2
Fracture = 2
8KaboveMSL = 2
PowderJunkie = 2

Bronz = 1
zygomatic = 1
driggity = 1
C4S Dayton = 1
Hindsight2010 = 1
UnoMas = 1
Catharpin = 1
Alfnado = 1
arscottp = 1
bzcat = 1
Nein Elf = 1
Optionman1 = 1

Snakesm13 = 1
tinroof = 1


Last edited by 8KaboveMSL; 07-05-2021 at 10:58 PM.
Old 07-06-2021 | 02:51 AM
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Said 2 days left. I’ll shoot low. Been out for a while.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...a-cabriolet-7/

“FEQUENTLY” FORGOTTEN RULES
1--->$250 minimum bid spread
2--->Bids must be placed 48 hours before auction ends. One "mulligan" late guess per person if you forget


Guesses:
$55,000 - Kellen
$56,500 - tinroof
$57,000 - jimfuerst

$58,000 - JVinPortland
$58,750 - groovzilla
$59,500 - JRBucks
$61,000 - linderpat
$62,000 - Powderjunkie
$63,000 - boisenelson
$64,000 - street rod
$65,000 - Fracture
$66,000 - floatingfish
$67,000 - southbay
$67,250 - ManoTexas
$69,000 - Wolfsburgde

$70,000 - GPappy
$72,750 - 8KaboveMSL

$73,250 - bheit1
$80,000 - hatchetf15



Wins:
Big Swole = 12
Bloose993TT = 9
Vincent713 = 9

street rod = 8
groovzilla = 7
bgoetz = 6
linderpat = 6
Wolfsburgde = 6
floatingfish = 6
GPappy = 5
JVinPortland = 5

jimfuerst = 4
Kellen = 3
hatchetf15 = 3
VT Blue = 3
Samimi = 3
TheTorch = 3

Jeebus31 = 2
3404 = 2
ThunderRolls = 2
ilovemaui = 2
southbay = 2
ManoTexas = 2
roadie13 = 2
Fracture = 2
8KaboveMSL = 2
PowderJunkie = 2

Bronz = 1
zygomatic = 1
driggity = 1
C4S Dayton = 1
Hindsight2010 = 1
UnoMas = 1
Catharpin = 1
Alfnado = 1
arscottp = 1
bzcat = 1
Nein Elf = 1
Optionman1 = 1

Snakesm13 = 1
tinroof = 1
Old 07-06-2021 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kellen
Said 2 days left. I’ll shoot low. Been out for a while.

NOPE!! You missed it again like I did, two times in a row.

check your “refresher” could it lied to you. Lol

You cannot go by what it says at the top. You have to go down below the pictures and look at where it says auction ends, it will tell you the day and time and then you have to make your guess 48 hours before that specific time.




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Old 07-06-2021 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Swole
NOPE!! You missed it again like I did, two times in a row.

check your “refresher” could it lied to you. Lol

You cannot go by what it says at the top. You have to go down below the pictures and look at where it says auction ends, it will tell you the day and time and then you have to make your guess 48 hours before that specific time.




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lol
Old 07-07-2021 | 12:54 PM
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this one is gonna stay low (I think). Seems there is confusion around where the damage was and seller seems a little standoffish. Will be interesting.
Old 07-07-2021 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kellen
lol
should the guesses be corrected for this?
Old 07-07-2021 | 01:00 PM
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Maybe people who have contacted the seller privately and/or have seen it in person will come through. It seems there are several people in the comments trying to keep the price down. Asking for paint meter readings with less than 3 hours left? 🤦‍♂️

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...a-cabriolet-7/

“FEQUENTLY” FORGOTTEN RULES
1--->$250 minimum bid spread
2--->Bids must be placed 48 hours before auction ends. One "mulligan" late guess per person if you forget


Guesses:
$56,500 - tinroof
$57,000 - jimfuerst

$58,000 - JVinPortland
$58,750 - groovzilla
$59,500 - JRBucks
$61,000 - linderpat
$62,000 - Powderjunkie
$63,000 - boisenelson
$64,000 - street rod
$65,000 - Fracture
$66,000 - floatingfish
$67,000 - southbay
$67,250 - ManoTexas
$69,000 - Wolfsburgde

$70,000 - GPappy
$72,750 - 8KaboveMSL

$73,250 - bheit1
$80,000 - hatchetf15



Wins:
Big Swole = 12
Bloose993TT = 9
Vincent713 = 9

street rod = 8
groovzilla = 7
bgoetz = 6
linderpat = 6
Wolfsburgde = 6
floatingfish = 6
GPappy = 5
JVinPortland = 5

jimfuerst = 4
Kellen = 3
hatchetf15 = 3
VT Blue = 3
Samimi = 3
TheTorch = 3

Jeebus31 = 2
3404 = 2
ThunderRolls = 2
ilovemaui = 2
southbay = 2
ManoTexas = 2
roadie13 = 2
Fracture = 2
8KaboveMSL = 2
PowderJunkie = 2

Bronz = 1
zygomatic = 1
driggity = 1
C4S Dayton = 1
Hindsight2010 = 1
UnoMas = 1
Catharpin = 1
Alfnado = 1
arscottp = 1
bzcat = 1
Nein Elf = 1
Optionman1 = 1

Snakesm13 = 1
tinroof = 1


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