997 blown away - just rode in a Tesla
01-02-2019, 07:40 PM
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Electric cars are here to stay, sure. Mostly for upper middle class folks with 2-3 vehicles and/or do not travel longer distances. Perhaps when you can swap out a battery in a few minutes at a station, longer trips will make more sense.
I suppose some day, trailering boats, campers and toys will be a thing of the past unless it's a few miles.
What range is an electric minivan or 3 row SUV going to have?
Tesla just lowered their price 2k per car, which means each car will be getting a price increase with the soon to be withering government handout.
The model S is stale from age, and the model 3 looks like a stale model S ugly stepchild. The main reason I see Tesla being relevant for years to come is their lead in charging stations and the propensity for German automakers to over price compared with a similar rival.
I suppose some day, trailering boats, campers and toys will be a thing of the past unless it's a few miles.
What range is an electric minivan or 3 row SUV going to have?
Tesla just lowered their price 2k per car, which means each car will be getting a price increase with the soon to be withering government handout.
The model S is stale from age, and the model 3 looks like a stale model S ugly stepchild. The main reason I see Tesla being relevant for years to come is their lead in charging stations and the propensity for German automakers to over price compared with a similar rival.
01-02-2019, 08:26 PM
#62
No need to panic, has anyone tried to price out a good horse, they are expensive. Furthermore, we know more about horses and have better ways of taking care of them than ever before. The same think will happen with our gas cars if we decide to keep them.
01-02-2019, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenGorilla
Here are a couple relevant articles from Jalopnik. It just doesn't sound like fun to me.
NY to MI by Ryan Felton - the first long run Tesla article I'd read
Electric reverse cannonball?
NY to MI by Ryan Felton - the first long run Tesla article I'd read
Electric reverse cannonball?
01-02-2019, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by andy92782
..."Also, the cost of the electricity consumed is about 1/3 to 1/4 that of what I would have paid in gas in a similar car".
01-02-2019, 10:18 PM
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01-02-2019, 10:50 PM
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01-02-2019, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tomc_mets
Has anyone here taken a seriously long road trip in a Tesla? Let's say a thousand miles plus and away from the coasts. Dallas to PHX. MPLS to Seattle. Chicago to LA. If so, that's the kind of trip I'd want to take in an EV - see friends, family, etc. How feasible are such long trips with current / near future technology?
BTW, whoever posted that Plug Share map. Awesome. Thanks.
T
BTW, whoever posted that Plug Share map. Awesome. Thanks.
T
01-02-2019, 11:45 PM
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A couple of years ago, I chatted with a Tesla owner who was charging his car in Goodland Kansas (east of Denver). He was from Charlotte and was returning there from Seattle. I asked him about the range issue and he said that he just planned the drive in 90-100 mile segments between supercharger stations and would stop for a 15 minute break whilst it charged. It could be done but would demand that you drive to the car's schedule rather than your own.
and Nav tells u where/how long to stop. Love the sounds of my RS and character of 964 on wkends but during the week, I wd never go away fr electric now. Can also take them in multi occupant vehicle commuter lanes as solo occupant here in Vancouver, which helps. Were probably a lot of people having same resistance to transition from horse drawn carriage to steam to ICE but it’s hard to deny where we’re headed.
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01-02-2019, 11:46 PM
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It is interesting how people will pay extra for conveniences: yard service, having cars washed, a nanny, a cleaning service, having someone change their oil. Are those same people all the sudden going to be willing to stop for 15-30 min every couple hrs to charge a battery. I get a little irritated waiting for a single car to get gas while I wait, every 500 miles.
01-02-2019, 11:58 PM
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It is interesting how people will pay extra for conveniences: yard service, having cars washed, a nanny, a cleaning service, having someone change their oil. Are those same people all the sudden going to be willing to stop for 15-30 min every couple hrs to charge a battery. I get a little irritated waiting for a single car to get gas while I wait, every 500 miles.
I dont miss gas stations as I’d often have to go when running late.
01-03-2019, 12:21 AM
#72
LOL. The inconvenience is only if you are on road trip. For most, 95% of time is city driving. Come home, plug in, wake up to full “tank of gas”. I havent been to gas station for over a year except w Porsches and to buy lotto tix to pay the damn Tesla off
I dont miss gas stations as I’d often have to go when running late.
01-03-2019, 12:28 AM
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I do not disagree with you. However, I commute in my 997. The family car is an SUV driven 95% around town, but we chose it for the 5% of trips to see family or go to beach, etc. An electric car would meet a need, commuting 40 miles a day. Life's is too short for me to commute my last 8-10 years of work in something I would dislike every day I used it. It makes sense to do the opposite for many I assume.
Tesla will lend you a car for day or two if you want to see if it’s liveable for your needs. An interesting experience if nothing else.
I came from opposite end of spectrum - used to daily Mercedes G500. Had character in spades and loved it.
Now the ultimate wd be Gwagen by Kriessel...
01-03-2019, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyndellis
A couple of years ago, I chatted with a Tesla owner who was charging his car in Goodland Kansas (east of Denver). He was from Charlotte and was returning there from Seattle. I asked him about the range issue and he said that he just planned the drive in 90-100 mile segments between supercharger stations and would stop for a 15 minute break whilst it charged. It could be done but would demand that you drive to the car's schedule rather than your own.
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01-03-2019, 01:50 AM
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These are all over the road in seattle. For the work commuters and family vehicles they make sense. However as people online discussing a vehicle that ended production 6 years ago I think we are not their primary target, at least for replacing our 911s.
I do do feel once Mercedes, BMW and Porsche get active in electric vehicles Tesla is going to have a problem. I can’t see them selling as many 100k cars and rushing to the bottom for the 35k electric vehicle.
I do do feel once Mercedes, BMW and Porsche get active in electric vehicles Tesla is going to have a problem. I can’t see them selling as many 100k cars and rushing to the bottom for the 35k electric vehicle.