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Old 07-02-2018, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug H


Likely same outcome if lose it at 90 or lose it at 148. 991 GTS or Turbo is so quick it is just a momentarily lapse if you keep your foot in it. These cars are also so stable and get to speed so quickly, they can inspire a false sense of confidence. It happens and will continue to happen and I would dare say a very large percentage of the people on here have hit 120s.
I agree with you Doug, but a driver has to know what the limits of the car at whatever speed you are driving. It goes without saying that track time and in some ways, auto crossing, are two great ways to improve a drivers understanding of what the car will do at speed and in sharp turns.
Old 07-02-2018, 12:44 PM
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I may not be a hotshot instructor but even I know it takes far less distance to stop a car going 90 MPH than it is at 148.
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What model was the car that crashed?
Old 07-02-2018, 01:16 PM
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What driving expert looks at a car with 9 year old w i n t e r tires* and thinks "yeah, let's see what this baby can do" ?

* sources say 6, 9 and 11 years old and w i n t e r tires

http://www.thedrive.com/opinion/5189...rs-fatal-crash

http://articles.latimes.com/2014/mar...crash-20140326

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...rash-no-fault/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...ment/82788984/

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Old 07-02-2018, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Meursault88
What driving expert looks at a car with 9 year old winter tires* and thinks "yeah, let's see what this baby can do" ?

* sources say 6, 9 and 11 years old and winter tires
If you are speaking of my friend, Roger Rodas and Paul Walker, STH up because chances are very great you haven’t a clue as to what you are talking about. What kind of moron thinks they make or had winter tires for a CGT and that winter tires were delivered new on CGTs? They didn’t on mine or on Graham Rahal’s that Roger had just purchased either. Both of those guys forgot more about cars than you’ll ever know and Roger was actually a great driver and a very conservative, responsible guy. Your sources are just as dumb if they say 11 years.
Old 07-02-2018, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug H


If you are speaking of my friend, Roger Rodas and Paul Walker, STH up because chances are very great you haven’t a clue as to what you are talking about. What kind of moron thinks they make or had winter tires for a CGT and that winter tires were delivered new on CGTs? They didn’t on mine or on Graham Rahal’s that Roger had just purchased either. Both of those guys forgot more about cars than you’ll ever know and Roger was actually a great driver and a very conservative, responsible guy. Your sources are just as dumb if they say 11 years.
I just want to know why someone would neglect to put new tires on a $500,000 car.
Regardless of who was driving doing 100 mph in the city, esp in a car like a CGT, was irresponsible.
The father of the gal I'm dating owned a CGT and sold it last year because it was "scary".
Old 07-02-2018, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug H
Roger was actually a great driver and a very conservative, responsible guy.
Unfortunately popular opinion is the of contrary due to the circumstances of the accident, etc.
Old 07-02-2018, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Abe Froman
The father of the gal I'm dating owned a CGT and sold it last year because it was "scary".
Scary? Wait till he meets you.
Old 07-02-2018, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LexVan
Scary? Wait till he meets you.
Haha. Oh this topic...
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Originally Posted by Abe Froman
What model was the car that crashed?
I wondered that too. Given the price and speed, I would guess a GT3? Turbo?
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Originally Posted by ocgarza
I wondered that too. Given the price and speed, I would guess a GT3? Turbo?
Not for $127K. Certainly not new.
Old 07-02-2018, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ocgarza
I wondered that too. Given the price and speed, I would guess a GT3? Turbo?
That engine laying there is no turbo. Some serious forces to separate the tranny from the engine..
Old 07-02-2018, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Abe Froman
I just want to know why someone would neglect to put new tires on a $500,000 car.
Regardless of who was driving doing 100 mph in the city, esp in a car like a CGT, was irresponsible.
The father of the gal I'm dating owned a CGT and sold it last year because it was "scary".
I had noted he was my friend earlier hoping that the gossiping rubbing necking brigade would back off and have some respect. Obviously, that is too much to expect for forum types.

He had just purchased the car that week and it had 3,500 miles. Paul had never been in one and asked for a quick ride.


I can drive that curve at 90 (not 100) in Prius and steering one handed, drinking coffee in the other in a CGT. That road was completely vacant at that time in an Industrial park/section . . . not busy city streets.

Your girlfriend's father obviously has no car control skills. The car can easily be driven in a non-scary fashion and is not inherently dangerous. That comment makes zero sense unless has no self restraint to go along with lack of car control skills.


Originally Posted by WantA997
Unfortunately popular opinion is the of contrary due to the circumstances of the accident, etc.

Time and time again, internet popular opinion proves to be ignorant and misinformed. No different than what I saw above right out of the gate.
Old 07-02-2018, 08:55 PM
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In the video from the TV station you can see the rear bumper skin. The wheel style too. They can read the ECU data to see if the brakes were applied or he was on the throttle anc the steering inputs. The caliper is Red so its an S.
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Originally Posted by Doug H
I had noted he was my friend earlier hoping that the gossiping rubbing necking brigade would back off and have some respect. Obviously, that is too much to expect for forum types.

He had just purchased the car that week and it had 3,500 miles. Paul had never been in one and asked for a quick ride.


I can drive that curve at 90 (not 100) in Prius and steering one handed, drinking coffee in the other in a CGT. That road was completely vacant at that time in an Industrial park/section . . . not busy city streets.

Your girlfriend's father obviously has no car control skills. The car can easily be driven in a non-scary fashion and is not inherently dangerous. That comment makes zero sense unless has no self restraint to go along with lack of car control skills.



Time and time again, internet popular opinion proves to be ignorant and misinformed. No different than what I saw above right out of the gate.
Everyone is different, Mr-I-Have-Driven-Everything-And-Know-Everyone
Coming from relatively normal cars (American stuff, Porsche 930, etc.) to a CGT was prob a jump for him. Even Jay Leno lost it in his Carrera GT albeit on a track...


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