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Old 04-26-2018, 11:05 PM
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Make sure and replace it with a magnetic drain plug tha has been Hard Anodized. Less chance of stripping out in the future.
Old 04-30-2018, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ADias
How did the rounding happen? Power tool used?
no power tools.
The correct hex tool was deployed.
Just with the back end jacked up on stands and that space being still narrow for my large frame there is hardly any room beyond me sliding under the back end, so the wrench has to be extended with my arm out and in the angled position 2 feet from my nose I didn't realize I didn't have the tool end of the torque wrench fully seated but only 1/2 in there, so the bit and wrench were able to angle slightly which then enlarges the plug opening which then alllows looser fit and more tilt and wham the opening is rounded.

Ensuring the tool is fully seated is the key. If I had a lift and could get the car 2 ft off the floor that would be way easier but I don't have the room.

So i am physically marking the tool to give me a clear visual indicator so I can be sure it's in there before I apply torque to the wrench.
Old 05-01-2018, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Minok


no power tools.
The correct hex tool was deployed.
Just with the back end jacked up on stands and that space being still narrow for my large frame there is hardly any room beyond me sliding under the back end, so the wrench has to be extended with my arm out and in the angled position 2 feet from my nose I didn't realize I didn't have the tool end of the torque wrench fully seated but only 1/2 in there, so the bit and wrench were able to angle slightly which then enlarges the plug opening which then alllows looser fit and more tilt and wham the opening is rounded.

Ensuring the tool is fully seated is the key. If I had a lift and could get the car 2 ft off the floor that would be way easier but I don't have the room.

So i am physically marking the tool to give me a clear visual indicator so I can be sure it's in there before I apply torque to the wrench.
I use this to avoid that very issue - not seating the hex bit fully.

http://www.drainplugmagnets.com/porsche.php
Old 05-01-2018, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Minok


.............. If I had a lift and could get the car 2 ft off the floor that would be way easier but I don't have the room...
Here's your solution: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...ot-a-set.html; I've been using liftbars for years with my 928s, my Boxster, and now my 997. Best $200 or so I've spent in my home shop.
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Old 05-01-2018, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by linderpat
Here's your solution: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...ot-a-set.html; I've been using liftbars for years with my 928s, my Boxster, and now my 997. Best $200 or so I've spent in my home shop.
I’m curious about the lift bars but your link isn’t working. Can you try to post it again?
Old 05-01-2018, 10:29 AM
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try this: http://liftbars.com/

and here is a prior rennlist thread: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-foru...got-a-set.html
Old 05-12-2018, 10:20 PM
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OK, so here I am in the same friggin boat. So much for that hardened steel magnetic drain plug - bought an LN mag plug, and the damn thing stripped out today - my very first time removing it :bangheadI'll try the JB weld trick. At least I still have my old stock plug to put in. The car is on lift bars, so plenty of room.
Old 12-23-2019, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by linderpat
OK, so here I am in the same friggin boat. So much for that hardened steel magnetic drain plug - bought an LN mag plug, and the damn thing stripped out today - my very first time removing it :bangheadI'll try the JB weld trick. At least I still have my old stock plug to put in. The car is on lift bars, so plenty of room.
Sorry to wake this thread up, but I’m in the same boat. Did the JB weld trick work??
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It did not for me. I also tried a chisel to tap it out, but failed. Here is a thread I had on it - I poste to the 928 forum, but it was for my 997: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/1155405-removing-stripped-flush-allen-head-bolt.html.
Anyway,
try JB Weld first - be sure to clean everything real good with brake cleaner first, to give the JB the best chance of holding. Other options include using a dremel tool to cut a groove then use a screw driver or chisel to turn it out. Good luck and make sure you post your results here afterwards.
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Originally Posted by linderpat
It did not for me. I also tried a chisel to tap it out, but failed. Here is a thread I had on it - I poste to the 928 forum, but it was for my 997: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/1155405-removing-stripped-flush-allen-head-bolt.html.
Anyway,
try JB Weld first - be sure to clean everything real good with brake cleaner first, to give the JB the best chance of holding. Other options include using a dremel tool to cut a groove then use a screw driver or chisel to turn it out. Good luck and make sure you post your results here afterwards.
And Shyam after your success in removal, if you haven't done so already, update your toolbox to include an 8mm hex bit (not torx) and the proper torque spec of 19 ft/lb.
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Originally Posted by jhbrennan
And Shyam after your success in removal, if you haven't done so already, update your toolbox to include an 8mm hex bit (not torx) and the proper torque spec of 19 ft/lb.
19 ft/lb? Not for the drain plug

Torque Specs -

Oil Plug 37 ft/lb
Oil Filter Housing 19 ft/lb

Old 12-23-2019, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Porto911
19 ft/lb? Not for the drain plug

Torque Specs -

Oil Plug 37 ft/lb
Oil Filter Housing 19 ft/lb
LN drain plug requires 19lb ft. for the stock plug your specs are correct
Old 12-23-2019, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
LN drain plug requires 19lb ft. for the stock plug your specs are correct

I’m sorry.. I just keeping learning something new every time I come here.

I Stand corrected

thanks
Old 12-23-2019, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by linderpat
It did not for me. I also tried a chisel to tap it out, but failed. Here is a thread I had on it - I poste to the 928 forum, but it was for my 997: https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/1155405-removing-stripped-flush-allen-head-bolt.html.
Anyway,
try JB Weld first - be sure to clean everything real good with brake cleaner first, to give the JB the best chance of holding. Other options include using a dremel tool to cut a groove then use a screw driver or chisel to turn it out. Good luck and make sure you post your results here afterwards.
Thanks for the update. I got a couple of spare OEM drain plugs and washers from the dealership this morning. Street-corner auto shop doesn't specialize in P-cars.
I have a spare 8mm hex bit and a hammer/mallet, and some JB weld as well. The only thing I don't want is a leaking bolt or one that's drilled through.
So I'll try my best, if not I'll take it to the guy that rounded the plug in the first place.
I suspect they over-tightened the plug beyond 19 lb-ft. In any case, the aluminium is too soft to tell who started the rounding - I basically finished it

Originally Posted by jhbrennan
And Shyam after your success in removal, if you haven't done so already, update your toolbox to include an 8mm hex bit (not torx) and the proper torque spec of 19 ft/lb.
Yes sir, I already have the 8mm hex bit (not torx) - not my first oil change on the car - but I just had the Indy do the oil change last time since the car was in for other work.

Old 12-23-2019, 03:58 PM
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Good luck Shyam. Keep us posted


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