Notices
997 Forum 2005-2012
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Drain plug stripped - wait till next oil change?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-23-2018, 03:23 PM
  #1  
Minok
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
Minok's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 2,415
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
Default Drain plug stripped - wait till next oil change?

So of course, the inevitable happened. As I'm putting in the drain plug after the oil had drained and tightening it down the allen key hole in the plug rounds out. Never got it tight enough with the torque wrench . Backing it out, of course not, as its rounded out in both directions. OK, so if I had a lift, then getting under there, seating a tool and backing out the plug would be no problem, but as in my case I only get the 12 inches or so off the garage floor thats no option.

So put in a quart of oil, let it sit overnight. No leak. Put the other 7 qts in. No leak. But I have no idea how tight that plug is.

Now the question, do I just drive the car normally and when I go in for my brake flush to the dealer, then have them also do the oil, and thus address the plug?
Or seek out the dealer now and effectively waste the 8 qts of oil I put in it? (its a 997.2 3.6l engine btw, if that matters)

Thoughts?
Old 04-23-2018, 03:35 PM
  #2  
jeffleept
Rennlist Member
 
jeffleept's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 190
Received 21 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

Don't risk harm to your car, or making a mess on the road for other drivers after heat cycling and a good pothole. I'd have anxiety driving around with a compromised drain plug.

Get it towed when possible
Old 04-23-2018, 03:39 PM
  #3  
Bruce In Philly
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
Bruce In Philly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 5,972
Likes: 0
Received 1,410 Likes on 855 Posts
Default

Howza bout this?: Reach your Dremel in there and cut a screwdriver slot..... you can jack up the car on one side..... and cut a notch across the head.... you can use a wheel bigger than the hole... place the wheel in the hole and cut the inside of the hole... keep going until you get enough to use a piece of metal...chisel point maybe? ..

Off course, if it doesn;t leak the way it is, just leave it alone.

Or... maybe sacrifice a torx bit by grinding the sides to make it pointy, then tapping it in? Tighten, the tap on its side to remove it.

Peace
Bruce in Philly
The following users liked this post:
63mercedes (12-23-2019)
Old 04-23-2018, 03:54 PM
  #4  
Minok
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
Minok's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 2,415
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

Getting it out isn't likely to be a problem - as you said, by cutting in a slot for a screw driver or tapping via a punch to rotate it from near the edge.
Its just a question of now or the next oil change. The plug is in all the way, just the torque isn't known.
Old 04-23-2018, 04:27 PM
  #5  
BillNye
Racer
 
BillNye's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: pseudoscience
Posts: 378
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Why not just drain the oil into a clean drain pan, then put it back in?
Old 04-23-2018, 04:31 PM
  #6  
nwGTS
Rennlist Member
 
nwGTS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 4,065
Received 343 Likes on 158 Posts
Default

This^^^ cut the notch, remove, drain into clean pan, new plug, fill with same oil. You don't even need to let it drain all the way.
Old 04-23-2018, 06:51 PM
  #7  
docdrs
Rennlist Member
 
docdrs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Ontario, Canada 2011 C4S
Posts: 1,156
Received 71 Likes on 47 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by nwGTS
This^^^ cut the notch, remove, drain into clean pan, new plug, fill with same oil. You don't even need to let it drain all the way.
This site is great, problem solved with a quick and easy simple solution in about an hour
Old 04-23-2018, 08:34 PM
  #8  
140.6er
Pro
 
140.6er's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
Posts: 571
Received 32 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Take care of it now. Drexel the slot and remove it.
Old 04-24-2018, 01:52 PM
  #9  
jeffleept
Rennlist Member
 
jeffleept's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 190
Received 21 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

It's good to see we have so many wrench-savy folks here. I could do an oil change, but if anything went wrong my hands go up.

Hope you got this cleared up Minok.
Old 04-24-2018, 10:18 PM
  #10  
Minok
Drifting
Thread Starter
 
Minok's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 2,415
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
Default Problem solved. No power tool needed in my case.



Scribed line on tool to visually know the tool is fully seated in the future.


Stripped but only 1/2 way down; note the shape is still intact way in the bottom.
So in my case up on a jack stand I still don't have enough room to be able to roll sideways under the car so getting a punch under there and being able to swing a hammer at it was out of the question. Thinking about dremel I recalled other thread about why they may have stripped due to the hex driver not fully seating and how deep the tool didnsear in the new plug vs the stripped plug in the pan, it was clear the tool wasn't anywhere near seated into the plug. That's on me, 8pm, at night and wedged under the back end with so little space to maneuver. So I tried hand twisting the hex tool and pushing up hard and low and behold the tool sent in another 1/4 inch. Carefully loosened the plug with the ratchet.

Then as you suggested, dumped the used oil into the empty 1qt bottles to clear the drain pan, then drained the oil into that pan till it was a very slow drizzle and hand fitted the new plug and washer. But this time fullyneastung the tool into the plug and hand tightening and the torquing to the 38ft-lb level.

The poured the oil back in.
Because it's not an oil change till you have put the same oil into the engine twice.

To prevent this problem in the future I seated the hex tool in a new plug (have several on hand) and using a saw scribed the level where the tool is fully seated to be sure I can detect having it only 1/2 seated in the future.
Old 04-25-2018, 11:54 AM
  #11  
stairmasterman911
Racer
 
stairmasterman911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: texas hill country
Posts: 359
Likes: 0
Received 21 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Had the same thing happen. Fellow rennlister showed me this. Fill up the hole with JB weld, then tap in the wrench head - place a strip of tape over it to hold it overnight. Then just back it on out the next morning.
The following 2 users liked this post by stairmasterman911:
anewman (09-16-2022), cryptical1200 (06-01-2023)
Old 04-25-2018, 12:12 PM
  #12  
Johnny DB
Rennlist Member
 
Johnny DB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Ontario
Posts: 1,952
Likes: 0
Received 126 Likes on 101 Posts
Default

Hammer in a torx bit
The following users liked this post:
bgoetz (11-14-2021)
Old 04-25-2018, 04:49 PM
  #13  
ADias
Nordschleife Master
 
ADias's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Southwest
Posts: 8,294
Received 384 Likes on 268 Posts
Default

How did the rounding happen? Power tool used?
Old 04-25-2018, 05:09 PM
  #14  
Bruce In Philly
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
 
Bruce In Philly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 5,972
Likes: 0
Received 1,410 Likes on 855 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Minok
To prevent this problem in the future I seated the hex tool in a new plug (have several on hand) and using a saw scribed the level where the tool is fully seated to be sure I can detect having it only 1/2 seated in the future.
I like this idea, thanx!

Peace
Bruce in Philly
Old 04-25-2018, 07:11 PM
  #15  
jhbrennan
Rennlist Member
 
jhbrennan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Austin
Posts: 6,571
Received 81 Likes on 73 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ADias
How did the rounding happen? Power tool used?
Don't know how OP's got rounded but many times it's because a torx bit is used in a hex hole (8mm hex) and/or it was over tightened at one time with the bit not fully inserted.


Quick Reply: Drain plug stripped - wait till next oil change?



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 11:35 AM.