Drove a 996TT today...WOW!
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I also have a 2003, bought about a month ago, and it too, has more than $20K in recent repairs and maintenance (I'm counting the last 2 owners before me, which is over a period of 2.5 years).
People need to realize that these 996TT, whatever their attributes, are not cars for the faint-hearted. I'm a long time BMW owner, and a more recent BMW collector, and the horror stories one reads on BMW forums pale in comparison to what one can see here with one's own eyes. The 996TT is a magnificent but seriously flawed vehicle. There were design choices made in this car that may have been efficient and cost saving when the cars were constructed, but which do not make these cars the best ones to own when service is needed.
Having to drop the engine in order to service and/or replace the power steering system AND the coolant system (as was done in my car, TWICE over 2.5 years) is really not evidence of very practical long term design.
We still love these cars, for what they are. But bring a healthy bank account along with you if you are buying one of these older used cars, especially if you don't really know what has been done to it over the course of its lifetime.
If a potential $10K+ repair bill will shake the underpinnings of your financial future, do not, I repeat DO NOT, buy one of these cars. Really, I mean it.
People need to realize that these 996TT, whatever their attributes, are not cars for the faint-hearted. I'm a long time BMW owner, and a more recent BMW collector, and the horror stories one reads on BMW forums pale in comparison to what one can see here with one's own eyes. The 996TT is a magnificent but seriously flawed vehicle. There were design choices made in this car that may have been efficient and cost saving when the cars were constructed, but which do not make these cars the best ones to own when service is needed.
Having to drop the engine in order to service and/or replace the power steering system AND the coolant system (as was done in my car, TWICE over 2.5 years) is really not evidence of very practical long term design.
We still love these cars, for what they are. But bring a healthy bank account along with you if you are buying one of these older used cars, especially if you don't really know what has been done to it over the course of its lifetime.
If a potential $10K+ repair bill will shake the underpinnings of your financial future, do not, I repeat DO NOT, buy one of these cars. Really, I mean it.
#32
I have also been shopping for a 996TT for several months and finally took the leap last week. The prices have definitely been creeping up since I started looking but I'd say that if you're shopping the entire country, you should be able to pick something up comparable to what you're describing in the 38-42k range after negotiations. Picking my Turbo S up in Detroit next week.
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Keep in mind, I'm not trying to compare the 996TT to the 997 C2S, both are in my budget $40-50k so those are my options at the moment. The ultimate goal is a 997 GT3 but that's gonna wait a little longer. It would be nice to drive a car that I could hopefully sell for what I paid for or at least lose minimal money on while I'm saving more money.
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But my point is, these things can be very expensive to own, and writing the check to buy one can be just the start of that. If, as a buyer, one does not understand that coming in, then rethink the purchase, is all that I can say.
#39
Once you drive the Turbo, it is hard to be happy with anything else, provided you do like to run the revs up where these motors are made to and like to run. Prices appear to be moving up, so I don't think it will get less expensive over time. Too bad it does not have the 6 speed though. I think the price is about right.
#42
No, I reached that conclusion long before I bought the car that I bought. The car that I bought already had all these things addressed, and recently; hopefully, I will not need to address them again in the next few years. And fortunately, if I do need to address these things, and write a big check, I'll be OK. I can afford it.
But my point is, these things can be very expensive to own, and writing the check to buy one can be just the start of that. If, as a buyer, one does not understand that coming in, then rethink the purchase, is all that I can say.
But my point is, these things can be very expensive to own, and writing the check to buy one can be just the start of that. If, as a buyer, one does not understand that coming in, then rethink the purchase, is all that I can say.
#43
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Correct. I was going to say something but decided to let it drop. I tuned mine up when I bought it and changed the clutch accumulator. Total about $2k. Other expenses like 2nd set of rims, LWF, tune were not mandatory. Everything made by man has flaws. I have not found anything excessive in any Porsche I've owned. I currently have three. Sounds like you already know what an M car can cost. Fortunately I've avoided the big hitters with my M5(SAI pluggage, Vanos, rod bearings, etc).
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Correct. I was going to say something but decided to let it drop. I tuned mine up when I bought it and changed the clutch accumulator. Total about $2k. Other expenses like 2nd set of rims, LWF, tune were not mandatory. Everything made by man has flaws. I have not found anything excessive in any Porsche I've owned. I currently have three. Sounds like you already know what an M car can cost. Fortunately I've avoided the big hitters with my M5(SAI pluggage, Vanos, rod bearings, etc).
#45
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In almost 10 years driving E39M5 my only failure was the fuel pump. 300 bucks and a half hour labor. SAI can be coded out for cheap or disassembled and cleaned for many thousands. VANOS is often bad solder joints on the board. Again cheap fix or some replace VANOS for many thousands. Rod bearings I've seen for about 2500. The spoiler failure alone on the TT is as much. Hopefully my turbo will be as reliable and trouble free as my M5 was.