Fabspeed or Europipe
11-11-2003 | 03:59 PM
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Fabspeed or Europipe
Guys,
I am new to the Porsche world, having recently purchased a beautiful Black X-50 with aerokit....Man does it rock.....I sold my M5 to afford it....Now I am starting to look into some modest things I can do to enhance the car....nothing crazy, but an exhaust is high on the list....These Europipe guys seem to have a very good product as does Fab.....Can anyone sway me one way or the other based on experience with the two systems and companies?????
I am new to the Porsche world, having recently purchased a beautiful Black X-50 with aerokit....Man does it rock.....I sold my M5 to afford it....Now I am starting to look into some modest things I can do to enhance the car....nothing crazy, but an exhaust is high on the list....These Europipe guys seem to have a very good product as does Fab.....Can anyone sway me one way or the other based on experience with the two systems and companies?????
11-11-2003 | 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by Trojan Man
I'm surprised that there is actually a comparison. While Fabspeed is great, Europipe is by far considered the "Rolls Royce" of turbo exhausts.
Just my 2 pfenigs.
I'm surprised that there is actually a comparison. While Fabspeed is great, Europipe is by far considered the "Rolls Royce" of turbo exhausts.
Just my 2 pfenigs.
. Please don't take my above comments as "bashing" Europipe, because as I understand its a great exhaust, and probably the same as Fabspeed, just kinda confused about the no comparison thing 
Evan
11-12-2003 | 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by cjv
Evan,
When I tuned both the Europipe and Fabspeed on my car, the Europipe outperformed the Fabspeed on my dyno tests. That is why the Europipe is still on my car. I have tested five exhausts. Europipe was clearly the best.
Evan,
When I tuned both the Europipe and Fabspeed on my car, the Europipe outperformed the Fabspeed on my dyno tests. That is why the Europipe is still on my car. I have tested five exhausts. Europipe was clearly the best.
Your car is set up waayyyyy different then any other Turbo out there... Ahhh I don't know...the 2 dyno tests I have seen the Fabspeed came out on top...either way, the fabspeed compares to the Europipe...Evan
11-15-2003 | 01:14 PM
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Evan,
I hope the 2 dyno tests you are referring to were not sponsored by Fabspeed. In any case, when I was searching for the "perfect" exhaust 7 months ago, I would here much more negative than positive about Fabspeed. Perhaps they have changed since then.
Also, the original question that started this thread is what can be done to ENHANCE the exhaust. IMO, that involves more than just raw power gains. What about fit and finish? Europipe definitely wins in that arena. What about sound? Although I don't own a Europipe (I'm too cheap), I have heard them, and there is no sweeter sound other than a Ferrari with a Tubi.
I would think of Fabspeed as a Z06 Corvette - perhaps just as capable as a TT, but makes a loud raucous and is far less refined.
I hope the 2 dyno tests you are referring to were not sponsored by Fabspeed. In any case, when I was searching for the "perfect" exhaust 7 months ago, I would here much more negative than positive about Fabspeed. Perhaps they have changed since then.
Also, the original question that started this thread is what can be done to ENHANCE the exhaust. IMO, that involves more than just raw power gains. What about fit and finish? Europipe definitely wins in that arena. What about sound? Although I don't own a Europipe (I'm too cheap), I have heard them, and there is no sweeter sound other than a Ferrari with a Tubi.
I would think of Fabspeed as a Z06 Corvette - perhaps just as capable as a TT, but makes a loud raucous and is far less refined.
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11-15-2003 | 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by Trojan Man
Evan,
I hope the 2 dyno tests you are referring to were not sponsored by Fabspeed. In any case, when I was searching for the "perfect" exhaust 7 months ago, I would here much more negative than positive about Fabspeed. Perhaps they have changed since then.
Evan,
I hope the 2 dyno tests you are referring to were not sponsored by Fabspeed. In any case, when I was searching for the "perfect" exhaust 7 months ago, I would here much more negative than positive about Fabspeed. Perhaps they have changed since then.
Hell, I am young and like th roar of the Fabspeed, I guess its more personal preference...
Evan
11-15-2003 | 10:34 PM
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I installed a Europipe Stage 2 loud with modified X54 tips to fit the oversized 80mm pipes and love it. Now I just have to wait for spring to hear it again. It's going to be a long winter! 
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11-18-2003 | 04:42 PM
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Could anyone help me with a graph or exel sheet showing the noise level of Fabspeed per RPM's ( 2500rpm---> 72db / etc... ). I am trying to compare "scientifically" both "noises" ( not their sound ). I found Europipe's data but I can not find Fabspeed's.
I am concerned with the "Resonance" inside the cabin. Can anyone confirm if there is any with Fabspeed or/and Europipe?. ( Resonance: an ugly metallic vibration with an ugly metallic noise ) I like to listen from time to time some music while travelling !
I am concerned with the "Resonance" inside the cabin. Can anyone confirm if there is any with Fabspeed or/and Europipe?. ( Resonance: an ugly metallic vibration with an ugly metallic noise ) I like to listen from time to time some music while travelling !
11-18-2003 | 07:34 PM
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shorties are quiet! Everybody should put shorties on their cars at least once. After that you won't care what kind of sound you have...
PS I loved the one about being an astronaut and seeing the space shuttle launch one time. Kevin, Stephen, my wife and I almost wet ourselves
PS I loved the one about being an astronaut and seeing the space shuttle launch one time. Kevin, Stephen, my wife and I almost wet ourselves
11-18-2003 | 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by sharkster
shorties are quiet! Everybody should put shorties on their cars at least once. After that you won't care what kind of sound you have...
PS I loved the one about being an astronaut and seeing the space shuttle launch one time. Kevin, Stephen, my wife and I almost wet ourselves
shorties are quiet! Everybody should put shorties on their cars at least once. After that you won't care what kind of sound you have...
PS I loved the one about being an astronaut and seeing the space shuttle launch one time. Kevin, Stephen, my wife and I almost wet ourselves
When you say shorties, what do you mean??? Muffler bypass pipes like those offered by Fabspeed???
11-18-2003 | 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by cobra06
The drone you're referring to is resonance. Fabspeeds without a doubt do resonate as any of the "pipe" design exhausts will
The drone you're referring to is resonance. Fabspeeds without a doubt do resonate as any of the "pipe" design exhausts will
Chris, I am sure Alex is talking about the bypass's, he swears by those things with the ghetto lawnmower tips
Evan