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Old 10-28-2016, 08:55 PM
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here is a shot of my X50 log with Forge IC and 2 1/2 Exhaust. Top of 4th at Laguna Seca running 100 race gas. Looks like the turbos could be pushing more with the waste gate duty cycle at 92%


Old 10-28-2016, 09:08 PM
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My comment was in general.

The results are even more messed up when you

1) outside ambient temps

2) Elevation

3) Gear driven>>3 and 4 vs 4 and 5th gear vs 5th and 6th...

4) One can run the boost request higher when running race gas.

Once one see 90% duty on the N75 the turbochargers are near peak output.. One can see that in the early RPM showing turbo lag and then up top in the RPM range.. The K16 compressor wheel will struggle to keep 1bar to 7K... Logging these values will show you what really is happening (general comment to Rennlisters)...

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I only see 0.4 at 3-4k rev😢
Old 10-29-2016, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by fung0001
I only see 0.4 at 3-4k rev😢
Yeah thats not right, tune or no tune.
Old 10-30-2016, 12:50 PM
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OK...I am the OP.

I heard conflicting things, but, as the car is plenty fast, I drive it a lot (10k miles a year), it has higher mileage (126k) and I want it to last forever, I decided to return it to stock.

Kevin was helpful. Thanks.

The fact that Softronic doesn't maintain a log of the VINs they've flashed strikes me as both convenient for them and poor customer service.

With the tune, I did a number of pulls and spiked as high as 1.3 bar and stayed at 1.1 or 1.2 when accelerating.

My local dealer charged me an hour to take the 1.2 bar tune off.

Notice acceleration isn't quite as violent, but I'm sure I'll get used to it.

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Old 10-30-2016, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by petron5000
... but I'm sure I'll get used to it.
Good luck with that.
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Originally Posted by petron5000
I decided to return it to stock.


My local dealer charged me an hour to take the 1.2 bar tune off. I did a number of pulls and spiked as high as 1.3 bar and stayed at 1.1 or 1.2 when accelerating.
those numbers on a stock car at the least suggest a vac leak? since an untuned k16(?) car shouldn't boost that high; only .7 with spikes to maybe .8.

e.g. a 1.2 tune would only see *spikes* of 1.3 provided all was was "tight". even if you have a k24 equipped car? those numbers you related after flashing back to *stock* are high EVEN for a stock mapped k24 car. let alone a k16.
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As 02996tt has just written, your results aren't correct.

What I would check..

Wastegate turbine housing failure>>arm siezed

Wastegate actuator failure/jambed linkage

Wastegate actuator control hose damaged or connection is off.

Aftermarket boost controller is used...

Aftermarket wastegates installed, with large aftermarket turbochargers
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Originally Posted by "02996ttx50
those numbers on a stock car at the least suggest a vac leak? since an untuned k16(?) car shouldn't boost that high; only .7 with spikes to maybe .8.

e.g. a 1.2 tune would only see *spikes* of 1.3 provided all was was "tight". even if you have a k24 equipped car? those numbers you related after flashing back to *stock* are high EVEN for a stock mapped k24 car. let alone a k16.
I put things in the wrong order. Those numbers were BEFORE the tune was removed.
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well then, that explains that!
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Originally Posted by Road King
Yeah thats not right, tune or no tune.
what is the figure for an untuned turbo at 3-4k rev?
thx
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Originally Posted by fung0001
what is the figure for an untuned turbo at 3-4k rev?
thx
When I bought my car 2 years ago (stock) I was seeing consistent .7 bar. That's about 10psi.
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Originally Posted by Road King
When I bought my car 2 years ago (stock) I was seeing consistent .7 bar. That's about 10psi.
oh
that's a significant different
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Originally Posted by fung0001
oh
that's a significant different
if your car only boosts to .04 on the gauge? you live in "limp mode" and are in need of some pro diagnostics.
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Originally Posted by "02996ttx50
if your car only boosts to .04 on the gauge? you live in "limp mode" and are in need of some pro diagnostics.
0.4 rather than 0.04

yes some kind of checking necessary
as there is a 4x% discount

What items are likely the cause, intercooler connection pipes fitment? Thx


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