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Old 11-14-2015, 05:31 PM
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Default Girly clutch in 996 X50

For reference my current Porsche is a Normally Aspirated 2003 996. It has a new stock clutch with ~ 6k miles, the helper spring is also stock.

I know some of you have moved from a NA 996 to Turbo. Did you have much trouble adjusting to the "power assisted" clutch in the turbo?

I just drove a 2004 X50 that I am interested in and I had a devil of a time feeling clutch take up. This car has under 20k miles. I have only driven one other Turbo and had the same reaction.

If your turbo is/was your first manual shift Porsche what is your take on the turbo clutch vs your previously owned xxx clutch?

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ditch the petosin asset and install a gt2 slave setup completely different feel. and fwiw i drive a truck with 1500 ft/lbs torque every clutch in every car made is a sissy clutch!
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I have gone from a 99 C4 to 02 tt x50. Same reaction. It is soft with no feeling to it. It think the gt2 upgrade gets rid if this.
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GT2/3 clutch is really, really stiff. Make sure you try one first.

Much more stiff than the C2/4.
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Whaddaya mean...."girly"????

Some of us could take offense!


(Kidding - I know what you mean).
Would have preferred a different adjective
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Originally Posted by fpb111
For reference my current Porsche is a Normally Aspirated 2003 996. It has a new stock clutch with ~ 6k miles, the helper spring is also stock.

I know some of you have moved from a NA 996 to Turbo. Did you have much trouble adjusting to the "power assisted" clutch in the turbo?

I just drove a 2004 X50 that I am interested in and I had a devil of a time feeling clutch take up. This car has under 20k miles. I have only driven one other Turbo and had the same reaction.

If your turbo is/was your first manual shift Porsche what is your take on the turbo clutch vs your previously owned xxx clutch?
Switch back and forth from the Turbo power assisted clutch to the Boxster clutch every other day. The Boxster clutch is a sweet clutch, but the Turbo clutch ain't bad. I don't feel I'm taking a step down in clutch feel when I get in the Turbo.

I have no trouble with the Turbo clutch's feel and can move the Turbo from a dead stop with no problem. At 120K miles I had the tranny out to deal with an RMS and the clutch disc had no measurable wear.

I tried a GT2 clutch -- the car was in the shop/service bay -- it was a used car in for a prepping -- and didn't like it. Much too stiff.

In your Turbo, with the engine off depress and then release the clutch pedal a number of times until you use up all the accumulated boost and then feel how stiff/hard the clutch pedal gets. Do you think you could live with that every day?
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Originally Posted by needmoregarage
Whaddaya mean...."girly"????

Some of us could take offense!


(Kidding - I know what you mean).
Would have preferred a different adjective
No offense meant. I wanted to get some responses so I used a slightly provocative adjective. Maybe Arnold's "Girly Man" better? Worse?
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Oh jeez, there goes the neighborhood - another one of those NA996 guys got past the gated community security guard.

Seriously, though, I thought the clutch on my X50 would be much stiffer. But no complaints here.
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Originally Posted by Macster
Switch back and forth from the Turbo power assisted clutch to the Boxster clutch every other day. The Boxster clutch is a sweet clutch, but the Turbo clutch ain't bad. I don't feel I'm taking a step down in clutch feel when I get in the Turbo.

I have no trouble with the Turbo clutch's feel and can move the Turbo from a dead stop with no problem. At 120K miles I had the tranny out to deal with an RMS and the clutch disc had no measurable wear.

I tried a GT2 clutch -- the car was in the shop/service bay -- it was a used car in for a prepping -- and didn't like it. Much too stiff.

In your Turbo, with the engine off depress and then release the clutch pedal a number of times until you use up all the accumulated boost and then feel how stiff/hard the clutch pedal gets. Do you think you could live with that every day?
Macster,
No fair using your ~250k mile Boxster/~150k mile Turbo as comparison. They are practically extensions of your legs.

I know the feel when the "boost" has bled down. If the GT2/3 is that stiff I would go back to the stock setup.
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Originally Posted by kcattorney
Oh jeez, there goes the neighborhood - another one of those NA996 guys got past the gated community security guard.

Seriously, though, I thought the clutch on my X50 would be much stiffer. But no complaints here.
KC you and MAC were two of the guys whose input I was looking for.
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i run a erp triple disk carbon fiber clutch with the gt2 slave. anyone who thinks these clutches are to stiff needs to put their big girl panties on. these are baby clutches
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If the clutch slave is failing, the engagement point of the clutch will be a moving target, literally. Check to see if you have a leaky/overflowing clutch reservoir in the frunk.

Dan
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Glad this topic came up since I was thinking of a GT-2 conversion while trans is out. What do you guys think? I don't really mind the stock feel, I've gotten used to it.
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I drive a GT3 with Lt Wt clutch set up, very firm and excellent. I also drive an 05 and must admit the TTS clutch is lighter. Easy enough to engage though. I like the differences between the two cars and find the clutch "feel" just fine
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Drive in traffic for a while with all that extra "feel" and let us know what you think then

Except for the fragile nature of the slaves, I have no problem with the stock set up. I've driven a GT2 setup and couldn't live with it on a street car.


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