2002 996 Turbo issue... driving me crazy :(
#16
Well I have had a new MAF installed, Fuel Pump, Turbo valves.. The Engine has been dropped (which cost me a lot in man hrs out here) to check hoses etc. Now may have to be dropped again to go over wiring... The one thing that phases me is the lack of power every now and then the car limps, has no power and is nearly stalling on take off.. And other times its fine.. But ultimately the lights come on eventually and I lose boost and it drives horribly again. Must illuminate some mechanical things due to its inconstancy?!
Will see what he comes up with the next couple of days before he feels we need to drop the engine..
Will see what he comes up with the next couple of days before he feels we need to drop the engine..
#18
Your ecu is receiving a signal from somewhere telling it something is wrong. It then cuts back on your throttle position to protect the motor "limp mode". That's why you're only getting 0.4bar. Get yourself a Durametric cable and get some readings from your ecu to see what's going on. If you can't get the cable, start by doing a pressure test on your intake and look for leaks. A visual check won't cut it, do a pressure test and listen for leaks. Your MAF fault code is telling you that your MAF is sending the ecu a reading that doesn't correspond with other signals it's getting. So if your MAF is functioning correctly then you know that there is a discrepancy between the amount of air entering your intake and the other variables your ecu is reading. I might be wrong but all your fault codes seem to be related to air issues, MAF, O2, boost.
Last edited by jeanmarcboilard; 04-16-2015 at 02:12 PM.
#19
Check your knock sensors...
Mine was doing the same thing, throwing all sorts of weird codes, running fine then falling on its face. We went to replace the knock sensors, a rat had chewed up 6 wires going to the sensors. once we fixed them it was fine. (Previous owner let the car sit outside a LONG TIME. I just bought it.)
Mine was doing the same thing, throwing all sorts of weird codes, running fine then falling on its face. We went to replace the knock sensors, a rat had chewed up 6 wires going to the sensors. once we fixed them it was fine. (Previous owner let the car sit outside a LONG TIME. I just bought it.)
#21
Here are your faults and possible causes:
P0103: 115 Mass Air Flow Sensor - Above Limit
Possible fault cause
♦ Intake air system on pressure side (between turbocharger and
engine) leaks
♦ Short circuit to B+
♦ Mass air flow sensor faulty
♦ Throttle jacking unit faulty
P1107/08: Oxygen Sensing Adaptation, Lower Load Range, Bank
1/2 – Below Limit
Possible fault cause
♦ Incorrect signal from MAF sensor
♦ Fuel pressure too high
♦ Fuel injector leaking
P1109: Input Variables, charge measurement - above limit
Possible fault cause:
♦ Heavily soiled throttle
♦ Throttle adjusting unit faulty
♦ Mass air flow sensor faulty
P1250: Boost Pressure Control Deviation - Above Limit
Possible fault cause
♦ Bypass flaps incorrectly adjusted
♦ Turbocharger faulty
So there may be more than one issue, when was the last time you cleaned the throttle body? Still MAF issues (I would get the voltage reading on the MAF...0.9-1.1V ignition on, 1.2-1.5 at idle). Lastly, check the wastegates.
Load values of the 911 Turbo (996)
Mass air flow ML in kg/h CLV in %
Idle speed 16 - 20 1.45 - 1.82
No load, n=3,000 rpm 60 - 80 5.45 - 7.27
P0103: 115 Mass Air Flow Sensor - Above Limit
Possible fault cause
♦ Intake air system on pressure side (between turbocharger and
engine) leaks
♦ Short circuit to B+
♦ Mass air flow sensor faulty
♦ Throttle jacking unit faulty
P1107/08: Oxygen Sensing Adaptation, Lower Load Range, Bank
1/2 – Below Limit
Possible fault cause
♦ Incorrect signal from MAF sensor
♦ Fuel pressure too high
♦ Fuel injector leaking
P1109: Input Variables, charge measurement - above limit
Possible fault cause:
♦ Heavily soiled throttle
♦ Throttle adjusting unit faulty
♦ Mass air flow sensor faulty
P1250: Boost Pressure Control Deviation - Above Limit
Possible fault cause
♦ Bypass flaps incorrectly adjusted
♦ Turbocharger faulty
So there may be more than one issue, when was the last time you cleaned the throttle body? Still MAF issues (I would get the voltage reading on the MAF...0.9-1.1V ignition on, 1.2-1.5 at idle). Lastly, check the wastegates.
Load values of the 911 Turbo (996)
Mass air flow ML in kg/h CLV in %
Idle speed 16 - 20 1.45 - 1.82
No load, n=3,000 rpm 60 - 80 5.45 - 7.27
#22
Thank you appreciate the detailed advice, we checked the throttle and that seemed to be ok. We did the MAF readings, no obvious pressure leaks either so we are replacing the Wastegates.. I did ask them to check the Knock Sensors so hopefully they did that too...
#23
Excuse my ignorance, but how could your turbos "not work". I would think if low boost is occurring with turbos that are a manual device, then one might consider looking at the boost hose to see if it came loose slightly (perhaps by the intercooler) or above.
I had a hose come loose because I didn't secure it properly while changing plugs and the MAF and I got the ABS/PSM waring.
But what do I know...
I had a hose come loose because I didn't secure it properly while changing plugs and the MAF and I got the ABS/PSM waring.
But what do I know...
#24
Excuse my ignorance, but how could your turbos "not work". I would think if low boost is occurring with turbos that are a manual device, then one might consider looking at the boost hose to see if it came loose slightly (perhaps by the intercooler) or above.
I had a hose come loose because I didn't secure it properly while changing plugs and the MAF and I got the ABS/PSM waring.
But what do I know...
I had a hose come loose because I didn't secure it properly while changing plugs and the MAF and I got the ABS/PSM waring.
But what do I know...
#25
If the turbocharger wastegates doors are corroded shut you typically get a overboost limit CEL. As a result the car will go into limp mode. If the gates are corroded in an open state, the turbochargers will not have enough exhaust energy available at the turbine wheel to make boost. The car will be laggy and poor on performance.
If your car was stored outside, I would look at the knock sensors, and the connections. They sensor if NOT working will put the car into limp mode.
If your car was stored outside, I would look at the knock sensors, and the connections. They sensor if NOT working will put the car into limp mode.
#26
If the turbocharger wastegates doors are corroded shut you typically get a overboost limit CEL. As a result the car will go into limp mode. If the gates are corroded in an open state, the turbochargers will not have enough exhaust energy available at the turbine wheel to make boost. The car will be laggy and poor on performance.
If your car was stored outside, I would look at the knock sensors, and the connections. They sensor if NOT working will put the car into limp mode.
If your car was stored outside, I would look at the knock sensors, and the connections. They sensor if NOT working will put the car into limp mode.