Dock

Prices reflect what products can demand in the market place.

If modifying a 996 Turbo is too expensive for someone's blood, then don't mod the car. Or sell the Turbo and buy a used pick-up truck.

nick49

A few things to consider.

We're talking about a car costing between $130K to $170K when new.

The OE base muffler without covers, clamps, hardware is about $4200

Manufacturers of parts and accessories take into account many factors in pricing their wares.

For the most part it's market driven.


I agree that most of these parts and accessories are obscenely priced. The cars are too, when new. I will not pay $2k to $5K for a muffler or $3K-$5K for shocks and springs. I enjoy the car perfectly fine being stock. Having a bit more noise to the exhaust, sitting an inch lower to the ground and a firmer ride are not work $ Ten Grand $ to me. I'm not in the income bracket where I can make that kind of money in an afternoon.

F1CrazyDriver

Well it depends 's from person to person. Whichever EP I drove, sounded to quiet. For me. That is all I'm saying. I guess it depends on what you want the car for ? I don't mind a loud car that sounds proper. Just like I don't mind DD my turbo with negative 3.2 front camber and negative 2.8 rear camber, 650lb front and 1050lb rear, spring rates. I don't care that the tires wear out more in the inside. As long as I have that perfect handling and grip, with music when I hit the throttle. That's perfect to me. My father drove my car for a week a few months back because he couldn't find his car keys LOL . He was find with it. He loved the exotic noise the exhaust I have makes vs other ones he has heard. He is 51 too. Like I said, it depends on the persons tolerances.

Dock

While this is true, there is no question that sound can be measured and "loudness" assessed by evaluating the dB.

There is a difference in loudness between the EP2 Quiet and the EP2 Loud. While the EP2 Loud may not rise to the dB level you like, that does not mean the exhaust is quiet.

F1CrazyDriver

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/a...e-x50-cpo.html

That's the car I drove. Stage 1 EP, as the owner states wit headers, which i found quiet- 5-10% louder then stock ? . Yup it all depends what the owner finds the perfect loudness to them. I made the mistake of not getting a proper car ready for most of my needs, a GT2.- so I made this the ultimate TT that caters to my needs. Eventually a more raw car will come will suit my needs.

quick968

Thank you for a little validation here. I was using exhausts as an example, hadn't intended for the thread to melt down into a "which exhaust is better" talk. I meant as a general broad brush statement (sorry Lewis/Dock), aftermarket "improvements" cost far more than comparable items for other lesser (mere mortal) marques. As an example of additional silliness, take Vivid Racing's little tiptronic paddle shifter extension thingammies. Made from JENYUWHINE carbon fiber of course. These tiny little pieces are $400 for the pair! Held on with double sticky tape no less! Now come on guys. This is laughably out of line. Frankly, they'd have looked better, lasted longer, been vastly cheaper to make and matched the car better if they were made from billet aluminum and bead blasted or anodized black. You know, like the STOCK Porsche paddles are? There are always notable exceptions to any statement/rule, (UMW tunes, yeah it's on the to do list) and I acknowledge them as exceptions. I'm just sayin....

Cheers
Mikey

uschoice

Turbosjedi- Yeah that's the car. It was very hard finding a TTS in cobalt blue.

Dock

I was also just using the exhaust as a point of discussion. But I will say that I don't worry about the price of parts, especially aftermarket parts used for modifying the car. If I couldn't afford to maintain a Turbo, I wouldn't have bought one. As for modifications, people can choose to live without them. If the mods are too pricey for someone, they don't have to buy them.

As for an exhaust like the Europipe, you get what you pay for IMO; an exhaust that is better made than any other exhaust made for the Turbo. It sounds good, and has little to no resonance.

The 996 Turbo was a +$120k car when new. Just because the car has depreciated to the $35-$60k range does not mean that all of a sudden everything else about the car (parts, both OEM and aftermarket) has also depreciated that much.

Dock

And if the market votes "no" with their wallets, these parts will go bust.

ltc

FWIW and for the record, I am the owner of an 01 996 Turbo with less than 6000 miles, in stock OEM form. Yes, the world needs garage queens too.

To me, trying a new car shampoo is the biggest "modification" I will try. I don't know nor follow the cost for all these mods ... that's what 6speed.com was created for.

turbosjedi

I ended up finding the Cobalt Blue with saddle interior at Strong in Salt Lake....Your car intrigued me and got me interested in finding the "S" in that beautiful color.

turbosjedi

Mikey....wow it is a small world..When you worked at Micron, did you ever pal around with Kip Bedard? If so, next time you talk to him inquire what the roll out distance is on a 210 with gear up on a gravel runway..

Carlo_Carrera

996TT parts prices will drop just like all middle aged Porsche parts do.

powdrhound

One of our mechanics told me a brake job on our MD11s runs in excess of $750k. Each landing costs $500 in brake wear.....

powdrhound

The RUF exhaust with 100 cell CATs is about $5000 new, hardly a less expensive option.....