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Old 07-29-2010, 01:39 AM
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One thing to consider with any air cooled car is that metals in the engine expand and contract alot more and the heads and such on the 993 may need rebuilds alot earlier due to wear. I like the 993TT alot, but for example the cylinder heads are ~ 1500 a piece per cylinder :O Parts are also rare.

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Old 08-01-2010, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Land Jet
And that's it. A 996TT blows by a 993 like it's standing still. The 993 is seriously lacking in performance.
So what? My mustang would have made a 996TT look like a yugo, big deal.

Even a 996TT is not that fast stock. And the god awful interior....

Originally Posted by haulinkraut
One thing to consider with any air cooled car is that metals in the engine expand and contract alot more and the heads and such on the 993 may need rebuilds alot earlier due to wear. I like the 993TT alot, but for example the cylinder heads are ~ 15k a piece per cylinder :O Parts are also rare.
may want to revise your statement. The list price for the 993TT cylinder head is $2,324. You can get them for $1,670.

Parts are readily available from the dealer, although some less common things need to come from germany which can take some time.
Old 08-01-2010, 03:38 PM
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The OP was asking for a comparison between a 996TT and a 993. He wasn't asking about a Mustang or some other hot rod.
Old 08-01-2010, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
So what? My mustang would have made a 996TT look like a yugo, big deal.

Even a 996TT is not that fast stock. And the god awful interior....



may want to revise your statement. The list price for the 993TT cylinder head is $2,324. You can get them for $1,670.

Parts are readily available from the dealer, although some less common things need to come from germany which can take some time.
Not a stock Mustang, and not even the new GT500. 3820lbs vs. 3262. 550hp vs. 420hp. Fuel economy 14/22. According to Ford the newest one does 0-60 in 4.3 seconds. The 996 does 0-62 (0-100km/h) in 4.2 seconds. Oh, Ford claims to have paid extra attention to the car's aerodynamics and now it only exhibits 20lbs of lift at 120mph.

I've ridden in cars that are very quick but even so could not make a 996 look like Yugo, let alone a 996 Turbo, and while these cars were fast, they were noisy (exhaust and no sound-deadening), hot (no A/C), smelled like gasolne and oil all the time, dirty (would *not* pass smog), required constant fiddlling, no way would one use one for any touring, and just all around uncomfortable. But fast. But no faster than many "off the shelf" cars.

As for the interior, I haven't been in a Ford -- save a rental car once or twice (at least once in a Ford Fusion) -- since I sold my '96 Mustang GT in in 2001, but I doubt Ford has got an interior that surpasses even the Turbo's. The Fusion was ok a step, maybe a step and half above the usual rental car tin, but I wouldn't swap my Turbo's interior for the Fusion's.

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Old 08-01-2010, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Land Jet
The OP was asking for a comparison between a 996TT and a 993. He wasn't asking about a Mustang or some other hot rod.
you're missing the point larry. Point being, we don't all buy these cars for straightline speed, because there are much better choices than a porsche for that.


Originally Posted by Macster
Not a stock Mustang, and not even the new GT500. 3820lbs vs. 3262. 550hp vs. 420hp. Fuel economy 14/22. According to Ford the newest one does 0-60 in 4.3 seconds. The 996 does 0-62 (0-100km/h) in 4.2 seconds. Oh, Ford claims to have paid extra attention to the car's aerodynamics and now it only exhibits 20lbs of lift at 120mph.

I've ridden in cars that are very quick but even so could not make a 996 look like Yugo, let alone a 996 Turbo, and while these cars were fast, they were noisy (exhaust and no sound-deadening), hot (no A/C), smelled like gasolne and oil all the time, dirty (would *not* pass smog), required constant fiddlling, no way would one use one for any touring, and just all around uncomfortable. But fast. But no faster than many "off the shelf" cars.

As for the interior, I haven't been in a Ford -- save a rental car once or twice (at least once in a Ford Fusion) -- since I sold my '96 Mustang GT in in 2001, but I doubt Ford has got an interior that surpasses even the Turbo's. The Fusion was ok a step, maybe a step and half above the usual rental car tin, but I wouldn't swap my Turbo's interior for the Fusion's.

Sincerely,

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No it wasn't a stock mustang, but it seems that you also have missed the point. The ford costs half what a turbo cost when new. At that price difference, the straightline speed difference is quite small. Especially once you get rid of the traction advantage from a stop.

As to the rest, my cobra made 700rwhp. It had a full interior, air conditioning, full sound deadening, full exhaust and a lovely convertible top, etc. Sure it was a little loud, but that was by choice. It passed smog with no cats, and smelled only slight like gas. Used it for long trips, touring track events, etc. Constant fiddling, not really. It would make a 996TT, even a modified one, look very silly in a straight line.

The interior of the mustang is built like dog**** with cheap materials. But my car listed for $32,000 in 1999. The 996 turbo cost what, $115k? Sure the 996 materials are better, but that doesn't make the design any less unattractive.
Old 08-02-2010, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by plaborde
The 996TT is the bigger bank for the bang for the buck car, the 993 seems to be turning into an classic as I write this. Any thoughts from you?
I have gone through exactly the same exercise...originally looking for a widebody 993. Given the lack of any offers where I live, and not willing to take on the risk and inconvenience of an import, I just bought an amazing 2001 black on black 996 Turbo (manual), fully original (except for 997 Turbo wheels) and heavily optioned. I can't imagine getting more car and a bigger smile for the money I paid.

The 993 S and 4S are style / design icons, but if you've driven the 996 TT and then climb behind the wheel of the 993 you could almost think you're in a Beetle.

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Old 08-02-2010, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by aircooled77
The 993 S and 4S are style / design icons, but if you've driven the 996 TT and then climb behind the wheel of the 993 you could almost think you're in a Beetle.
- Jan
I agree, I test drove a 993 S coupe, and although it sounded great, and looked great, I was totally underwhelmed by the power.
Old 08-02-2010, 03:30 PM
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But they look and sound beautiful...
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Maybe a 993tt is a good compromise. I've had a 993 and a Ruf 993 Turbo R. The 993 really is underwhelming. My bmw 7 series was faster. The RUF was a beast, but I bet a 996tt is a lot easier to drive fast.

I think a 996TT probably makes more sense... however, when buying a Porsche making sense usually isn't the highest priority.
Old 08-11-2010, 03:14 AM
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There is a black 993 for 25k at Roocks in Atlanta. Low miles....amazing car. Sat in it in the showroom.
Old 08-13-2010, 02:26 AM
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Both are great cars- as all Porsche are in their own right.
Having just sold a 993 C4S with intentions of procuring a 997 -I now have a 996 Turbo Coupe.
Simply because- the 996TT is just too good of a deal to pass up.
Less money than many 993s and most 997 NON Turbo Coupes- the 996TT is an incredible car at a current incredible value.
I love 993 and all previous 911 cars -for what they are, that being said -the ergonomics from 69-98 were to me, basically the same car -slightly modernized over time.
The 996 is a new node in the branch where Porsche broke to a new platform -inspired by the previous only in spirit.
To me its a better car- and the Turbo is the flagship of the line so its primarily top level optioned standard.
In the end- its whatever strikes you most!
Old 08-14-2010, 01:38 AM
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[QUOTE=Quadcammer;7780367]So what? My mustang would have made a 996TT look like a yugo, big deal.

Even a 996TT is not that fast stock. And the god awful interior....

give it a break what do you know about god awful interiior -- you bought a mustang. what's god awful about this?


Old 08-14-2010, 01:41 AM
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just wanting to show some love for my 996tt and post this pic.

Old 08-14-2010, 01:51 AM
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my favorite pic

Old 08-14-2010, 12:53 PM
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Beautiful photo. I am torn over silver or black rims. I love the look of yours.

Right now, I am digging my stock rims with no immediate desire to change.

Are you in Texas?
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yes in dallas


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