C4S Rear Reflector on 996 TT . new photos...
#16
Instructor
996TT Cab with hard top
Just in case you've never seen a cab withe top on, I realize not many use it (few have it). Shame they couldn't duplicate the coupes lines but is is a lot quieter and warmer in the winter. (SORRY, WRONG THREAD)
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#19
Burning Brakes
i would say the spoiler works. I only say this because i own a 04 C4S cabriolet. I HATE the fact that it dosent have a spoiler and no C4S came with them (except Aero Kits). I found a thread that shows you can take a turbo decklid off and bolt it on a C4S (cab only) and the connector is plug and play. Even though the C4S has a electric spoiler and the Turbo is Hydro. Just did it today. Turns out the info was correct. Bolts right on and the spoiler works perfect. Now i just have to take the turbo emblem off. Bad picture but it was late night.
#20
Drifting
i would say the spoiler works. I only say this because i own a 04 C4S cabriolet. I HATE the fact that it dosent have a spoiler and no C4S came with them (except Aero Kits). I found a thread that shows you can take a turbo decklid off and bolt it on a C4S (cab only) and the connector is plug and play. Even though the C4S has a electric spoiler and the Turbo is Hydro. Just did it today. Turns out the info was correct. Bolts right on and the spoiler works perfect. Now i just have to take the turbo emblem off. Bad picture but it was late night.
#21
Burning Brakes
Simple answer is nope, its all different. The C4S uses electric motors to lift the spoiler. The Turbo uses hyro rams. The good part was that all parts for both decklids (hydro, fans, light) all use the exact same wiring connector and pin locations within the connector. So it literally was a simple remove the old decklid (4 bolts) and unplug 1 big connector. Then install the turbo decklid and connector the connect. The car has no idea anything changed so at 75+ mph the spoiler raised just as it should and lowered at 35.
#22
Drifting
Simple answer is nope, its all different. The C4S uses electric motors to lift the spoiler. The Turbo uses hyro rams. The good part was that all parts for both decklids (hydro, fans, light) all use the exact same wiring connector and pin locations within the connector. So it literally was a simple remove the old decklid (4 bolts) and unplug 1 big connector. Then install the turbo decklid and connector the connect. The car has no idea anything changed so at 75+ mph the spoiler raised just as it should and lowered at 35.
#23
Burning Brakes
I would assume so. All i know is it transforms the look of my C4S. Just hope the hydro's work perfect for awhile. The normal Carrera/C4s style spoilers never have issues. But I'm sure you guys on the Turbo side are all to familiar with the expensive cost of repairs when they die which seems to be common occurrence. Now its time for Bumper Plugs to send me painted bumperettes and a 3rd brake light cover.
#24
Drifting
I would assume so. All i know is it transforms the look of my C4S. Just hope the hydro's work perfect for awhile. The normal Carrera/C4s style spoilers never have issues. But I'm sure you guys on the Turbo side are all to familiar with the expensive cost of repairs when they die which seems to be common occurrence. Now its time for Bumper Plugs to send me painted bumperettes and a 3rd brake light cover.
#25
RL Community Team
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Out of the total number of 996 Turbos that were built, I wonder what percentage have had spoiler issues. And what factor (or factors) lead to spoiler malfunctions? Is it leaving it up for prolonged periods of time? Is it a matter of part failure? Is it related more to certain years of production?
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#26
Drifting
Out of the total number of 996 Turbos that were built, I wonder what percentage have had spoiler issues. And what factor (or factors) lead to spoiler malfunctions? Is it leaving it up for prolonged periods of time? Is it a matter of part failure? Is it related more to certain years of production?
Suspa is the company that makes the spoiler system for Porsche. They also make the frunk and engine cover struts among other hydraulic componets.
#27
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So it may not be just the total number of cycles the spoiler has accumulated, but also the repetitiveness of the cycles over a relatively short period of time (where heat is generated by the multiple and closely spaced cycles).
#28
Burning Brakes
Does leaving the spoiler up place more stress on the seals, or are they under pressure even when the spoiler is down?
#29
Drifting
Does leaving the spoiler up place more stress on the seals, or are they under pressure even when the spoiler is down?
As TKono stated a combination of hydraulic pressure and spring pressure are probably the cause of failure when left in the up position.
So it may not be just the total number of cycles the spoiler has accumulated, but also the repetitiveness of the cycles over a relatively short period of time (where heat is generated by the multiple and closely spaced cycles).
As TKono stated a combination of hydraulic pressure and spring pressure are probably the cause of failure when left in the up position.
So it may not be just the total number of cycles the spoiler has accumulated, but also the repetitiveness of the cycles over a relatively short period of time (where heat is generated by the multiple and closely spaced cycles).
#30
Out of the total number of 996 Turbos that were built, I wonder what percentage have had spoiler issues. And what factor (or factors) lead to spoiler malfunctions? Is it leaving it up for prolonged periods of time? Is it a matter of part failure? Is it related more to certain years of production?
i'd venture 80% at least have experienced spoiler "issues". those that haven't experienced any spoiler issues have probably had the cars garaged and not driven for most of the period of ownership.