Carnerd

Yah definitely, but with an intake (15-20 whp claims by some tuners) you'd be right up there at around 470 whp, and with headers you'd see almost no lag with the 16's.

Mikelly

I'm not buying that at all.

My setup, which I bought on the car already (And mine is a basic 996TT, not an X optioned car) was putting 510HP and 532#ft. of torque to the wheels with Kevin's K16/24 hybrids, GT2 intercoolers, BaileyDVs, a crappy OEM exhaust with minimal mods to it (Gutted cats I think), and an Upsolute Tune. With Kevin's new bag of tricks (His tune, 5FPR, Stiffer wastegate springs) and the DGI exhaust I've installed, I expect to see between 530-550WHP on his Performance/93 Octane tune. I'll know here in a couple of weeks after I get the car back together and on a Dyno.

My guess is if you're wrenching it yourself, you'd be able to get it done for less than $8K for the parts and tune. If you're paying someone to do it for you, you're probably well over $10K to get there.

I'm not seeing any aftermarket CAI picking up more than 5-7HP at the crank, and I seriously question even that much increase. They all have the same limiting bottleneck at the intake pipe. Once you get past the MAFS mount point, everyone of these CAIs necks down to the OEM diameter.

Mike

maxwell

not stock. Flashed with GIAC and a fabspeed loud. You wanna see the dyno sheet? 447AWDHP on a mustang dyno. And no, k16's are never going to put anywhere near 500whp down.

My buddy dyno'd right after me with the same setup but on k24's. GIAC flash, fabspeed exhaust and put down 495 to the wheels. Im sure you're going to say that isnt true either right?

The point of the thread is what would you have to do to run with a stock 997tt. The answer is flash and an exhaust. When the 997tt came out, this was tested and discussed adnauseum on 6speed. The flashed (k16) 996tt, and stock 997tt ran dead even when raced against one another.

nkhalidi

You guys are all talking about acceleration; you don't think the 7TT has superiority in stopping and turning to the point where the 6TT would need significant brake and suspension work to keep up?

Mikelly

Well in my case, I've got most of that addressed... I've got aftermarket adjustable suspension and I've been addressing braking issues. mine work great most of the time... I suspect there's a 6 piston/14 inch upgrade in my future though, to complete the package...

So Add another $10K to that and you'll have a 996TT that'll do everything as good, or better than a 997TT...I'd put mine up against a stock 997TT and confidently show it my taillights, on a road course, or on the strip, and at nearly half the cost savings! The price of a low miles used 996TT is a no-brainer... mine was $71K and it had 9K miles on it and came with all the upgrades mentioned above, plus HR Adjustable swaybars, Bilstein PSS9s and pagid pads, along with GT3RS seats. I've spent another $6K on items like a better exhaust, SAMCO turbo hoses, Kevin's UMW tune and FPR/ WG Springs and a nice set of street bling wheels.

Mike

jcb-memphis

Get some of Kevin's uber turbos (UMW)....reliability and power...both are key....the ZC stuff is art and I am saving for it. I agree with Tom K.

On a track, one is keeping the revs over 3k, so lag is less critical on the track.....on the street, watch lag closely. Bigger turbos often have a lot more.

JB

harris

noone said that 997 TT is not a better overall car than 996 TT....(in fact it should be...)

question was based basically on straigt line accelaration

have in mind as well that

7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/00)

7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)

wich is very very very impressive of course for the 997 S...

Dock

I don't think the 996 Turbo would need any suspension work to keep up. From what I've read, the 997 Turbo does not handle as well as the 996 Turbo above the 70-80% of performance range.

Dock

Keep in mind that the Turbo's time was with a non-X73/non-X50 car. It's tires may also have been inferior to the tires used on the 997S.

So the 997S time represents what the car can do in it's best configuration, but the 996 Turbo's time does not represent what the car can do in it's best configuration.

harris

I do not totally agree with your statement Dock...
this is because for me an 996TT with X73 and X50 option is a moded car compare to a standard 996 TT....and this 2 option could have been the only mods that our 996TT need to keep up with 997TT...

concerning the handling between 7TT and 6TT I have no personall experience, and can only read and accept in some ways your statement: "I don't think the 996 Turbo would need any suspension work to keep up. From what I've read, the 997 Turbo does not handle as well as the 996 Turbo above the 70-80% of performance range. "

harris

pole position

False. Instead of reading try driving. Heard, saw, read etc etc don't count.

harris

there are some serious mags out there...and for sure we cannot ignore them...if this read opinion is a product of reading such a mag..

but again..nothing is better than personall experience

harris

Dock

So you consider a 996 Turbo equipped with a factory option "modded"? I sure don't.

Why wouldn't someone want to compare Porsche's "best" 996 Turbo configuration to Porsche's "best" 997 configuration?

Dock

So you consider a 996 Turbo equipped with a factory option "modded"? I sure don't.

If someone wanted to compare cars, why wouldn't they want to compare Porsche's "best" 996 Turbo configuration to Porsche's "best" 997 configuration?

Dock

Do you read Rennteam?

And with regard to "reading" about cars, there is plenty of accurate information about cars that you can read about. Take the 996 Turbo...the car in stock configuration understeers. Are you saying that just because someone reads that it understeers, the fact that it understeers is not a true statement?