UMW LWFW / Sachs Clutch install (pics)
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UMW LWFW / Sachs Clutch install (pics)
Installed my UMW LWFW / Sachs clutch package Tuesday. Total remove & install took 8 hours. Not an enjoyable job reaching the top part of the gearbox. (Need rubber like arms).
Very happy with the outcome….car now revs quicker in the lower rpm range. With the removal of the dual mass FW car definitely has more mechanical noise (as expected).
Kevin: Thanks for the kit (very happy you also supplied the shorter FW bolts).
Very happy with the outcome….car now revs quicker in the lower rpm range. With the removal of the dual mass FW car definitely has more mechanical noise (as expected).
Kevin: Thanks for the kit (very happy you also supplied the shorter FW bolts).
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Kevin, you are 100% correct, also received the pressure plate bolts (which I installed).
Look forward to the installation pics / notes. After which I will realize the install was possible in 6 hours !!!
Look forward to the installation pics / notes. After which I will realize the install was possible in 6 hours !!!
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what benefit does a lwfw provide over the oem type..? what performance increase do you really get?? i've heard that the engine revs faster, but does that translate in quicker 0-60 times...what about longevity does it wear any quicker. sorry if some of these questions are dumb, but would like to know if the results warrants the costs involved and the additional engine clatter noise.
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Manny if you look at the pictures you can see the 28 lb dual mass. There is a picture of the factory RS flywheel. It weighs 9lbs.. There have been customers that report back and say that it's like bolting on a 30HP mod.. Due to the free RPM revving, and the crisper shifting.
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kevin: what about longevity...does it wear any quicker than stock and also does it help people like me that still has difficulty sometimes with the clutch engagement. how much do you sell the entire kit for lwfw and clutch? thanks.
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The wear is going to be the same.. The clutch disk is built stronger.. Infact the new 997GT3RS has this very same clutch in as stock.. Ask the guys in the forum, buy I have had guys not even tell there wives.. My wife easily manipulates the clutch..
The cost is $1,975.00
The cost is $1,975.00
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I agree, it's a great package; however, I find that the LWFW requires more attention when launching on a hill. Also, if the AC is on, there have been times when the rpm's decrease rapidly enough when the clutch is depressed, that the engine spins down below idle and shuts down. These are really no big deal IMO, but they present issues that are not present with the OEM package.
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what do you mean this no big deal...this would be an issue to us in hot climates where we use the ac constantly. the last thing i want is having to worry that the car is going to stall. is there a way that the computer can be re-programed to avoid something like this..
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Guys, car is more aggressive, weight goes down, and in theory it "may" wear a bearing within/on the engine less..
In the hot summer here, not an issue.
YMMV.
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I have GIAC programing, but the off-throttle "below idle" shut down issue would I think be present in all applications.
If I give the car a hard throttle blip (throttle on - throttle immediately off) with the clutch in or the transmission in neutral (to give someone standing around an idea of what the EP exhaust sounds like), the rpms will sometimes fall below idle rpm even with the AC off.
What's the answer to these issues? I carry a touch of throttle in these situations to ensure the rpm's ease down and stay above idle.
I think the improvements in performance are worth the minor change in my driving techniques.
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how is the clutch pedal with this clutch package.
i ask because the factory setup has the pedal too soft. so what does further lightening do to the clutch pedal (if anything)? my thought is that it should have no effect on the clutch pedal as the pressure plate and clutch are similarly weighted. It is only the flywheel, which weighs less but that wouldn't effect pedal feel. am i right?
I wish there was a way to get a slightly firmer pedal (not as firm as the gt3)...
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i ask because the factory setup has the pedal too soft. so what does further lightening do to the clutch pedal (if anything)? my thought is that it should have no effect on the clutch pedal as the pressure plate and clutch are similarly weighted. It is only the flywheel, which weighs less but that wouldn't effect pedal feel. am i right?
I wish there was a way to get a slightly firmer pedal (not as firm as the gt3)...
Cheers,
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Dock, do you want your RPM hunt fixed.. PM me.
The new clutch has a higher clamp force. In the picture, you can see the heavy metal. When put together, the pedal feel is consistant. However, it engages quicker. The force that you foot needs to depress the pedal is the same.
The new clutch has a higher clamp force. In the picture, you can see the heavy metal. When put together, the pedal feel is consistant. However, it engages quicker. The force that you foot needs to depress the pedal is the same.