Pricing on 996 turbos
#16
Agree that there are going to be many new models competing with both new 997tt and 996tt sales:.......also the new Nissan GTR. Audi R8 has lobbed in here(Oz)with a retail price between a new 997tt and a used 996tt.However, other than the GTR, none will have the modability of the 996tt.
How far wil they drop?
Worst case scenario is low enough for their owners not to sell for lack of value.I've already decided...I'm modding and keeping mine.
How far wil they drop?
Worst case scenario is low enough for their owners not to sell for lack of value.I've already decided...I'm modding and keeping mine.
Re the US market - will be interesting to see what happens, but IMO the prices are unlikely to fall too much further for all the reasons stated by previous posters who share this view - however, only time will tell! I think more than half the 996TTs built were originally sold in the US! You guys have it good over there, take advantage while you have the opportunity!
Cheers,
Beej
#17
Unfortunately that is not a one-variable equation
Just like the 993TT, which was produced at much higher numbers than it's predecessor...yet still sold new for very high amounts.
Going forward, there will probably be many more 997TT's (if the world economy holds up, that is), and people will be making the same claims as they watch their cars drop in a seemingly uncontrollable fashion.
If you read the section in Excellence regarding the value over the years of various 911's (one of the most recent issues had a study on the 996) you can see that prices drop, drop drop...then level out - maybe 10 years, 15 years down the line - at which point some begin to rise.
There are lots of excellent 996 mechanics out there who know how to do all sorts of excellent things to the cars. There are plenty of mods. Most (my guess) of you don't drive your cars a lot, but I do (55k miles now). The car has held up tremendously under daily stresses in all sorts of environments. Maybe people will discover - in a few years, when all of the garage-queen 10k mile 996TT's are snapped up in the secondary markets and all the driven 996TT's have hit 100k miles - that the cars in fact might have a great reputation in terms of reliability.
Again, due to the laws of supply and demand, people who might have wanted a 993 (and its air-cooled glory) *might* find that prices have begun to rise, and quality examples are hard to come by. What will the masses go for next?
Yep, the 996. And it will continue, as things always do, down the line, as long as Porsche makes great automobiles.
Anyways, as we all know the bottom comes when people stop talking about the bottom. So in the meantime, do yourselves a favor and ENJOY YOUR CARS!
#18
I thought I saw a study once of long-term pricing which showed that 911's of all sorts eventually dropped to a value of around 35-40% of their original price when new, then pretty much stayed in that neighborhood for a long time, trading on condition and mileage. It was in either Excellence or Panorama I recall.
#20
My car is gaining value every day.
Best darn car made and at the current price, insanely cheap. People should be paying 80k+ for them.
;-)
Actually, great cars and the post by cgeorgan is right on the money. I drove it a lot today. Grin factor is off the scale. That is priceless!
Best darn car made and at the current price, insanely cheap. People should be paying 80k+ for them.
;-)
Actually, great cars and the post by cgeorgan is right on the money. I drove it a lot today. Grin factor is off the scale. That is priceless!
#21
Don't forget that the Euro went past $1.42 this week, an all time high. It was at $1.12 about a year ago. Do the math and you'll see that new Porsches are going to go up a lot, and this will increase the value of the existing cars. It happened in the early seventies, and it will happen now.
#22
To follow up on my original post I am including a link. These guys are selling a 2003 turbo, with 21,185 miles, and the price is $145,900.00!!!!
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...eadExists=true
And no, it is not a GT2 or a GT3. Isn't that more than a brand new one?
Just curious on what the group thinks.
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...eadExists=true
And no, it is not a GT2 or a GT3. Isn't that more than a brand new one?
Just curious on what the group thinks.
#24
What you want and what you get has always been an issue. If that car doesn't have a built motor from a known shop making 700whp and carbon everything, no it still isn't worth that much..lol
Nice low milage 03 X50 = 80K, fair price to both parties in my opinion.
Nice low milage 03 X50 = 80K, fair price to both parties in my opinion.
#26
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The way I look at it if I lose $20K in the couple years I will own this car its not much more then I would lose driving some new off the shelf car. To me its a no brainer in what I want to drive. I dont own it to make money and accept the depreciation with a smile on my face every time I drive it
#28
The way I look at it if I lose $20K in the couple years I will own this car its not much more then I would lose driving some new off the shelf car. To me its a no brainer in what I want to drive. I dont own it to make money and accept the depreciation with a smile on my face every time I drive it