Land Jet

How many of you guys that did a stage 1 reflash, needed to get a new clutch because of it? I would like an extra 70 HP, but do I want to replace my clutch with only 10,000 miles on it?

Kevin

It's a requirement of how the clutch was used or abused.

If the previous owners rode the clutch and lived in Seattle or San Francisco, it most likely will need a new clutch.

Arnie1

I have an Upsolute chip in my 03. Dynoed and increase in 105 lbs torque and 85 HP still have the original clutch with 25,000 miles No problems

Land Jet

You're cracking me up Kevin!

Joe Weinstein

I get on it hard and often, but no abuse. Upsoluted at 4000 miles, and needed a clutch within
1000 miles... Got the Evo stage III. No problems since.

Shark

Needs to be part of the budget. Thats the primary reason I have resisted thus far.......my car has 53k miles on the original clutch.

MK19

I'm with Kevin; the flash and the clutch are two seperate matters. The stock clutch will easily handle the power is used right. If abused (read drag slipped) the stock clutch won't even handle the stock power. Mine is flased, OE clutch has 60k miles and is just fine.

Lysoleverywhere

my clutch went after 1 week with Kevin's ECU flash. Dammit! Oh well...he warned me

Mr. C4

There is no reason why the clutch should fail just like that because of a flash. All depends on the condition of the clutch when you have the flash loaded.

fly2low

have 30,000 miles pn an oem clutch with UMW flash. Working fine

Land Jet

You guys dug this up from 2 years ago.

wross996tt

And the type of flash and your driving behaviors...LOL

adam_

First- I do not believe that "flash kills clutch".

HOWEVER, I do get the distinct sense that at WOT, in 3rd gear, with 100 octane at 60F, I can generate enough power to overcome my stock clutch. If I repeatedly do this, I think I would burn it up. Just my sense.

So, I don't do that.

I've really never understood how people cannot "feel" what is going on with their clutch- to me I have a pretty good sense of when I am slipping, or when I am abusing it, and just keep under that point... although I expect that after a bit, you've glazed the surface and you spiral down into replacement...

A

Mikelly

Adam, It has more to do with how the car is tuned...

I had the "Upsolute" superior tune and had zero issues... Car NEVER showed evidence of slipping. I had done several tests with it to see "IF" it would slip... 3rd to 5th gear shifts showed ZERO slipping, multiple tries... I say superior with tongue firmly planted in cheek, 'cause that tune is garbage.

I did the UMW tune on my car, along with 5 bar FPR and wastegate springs and the thing INSTANTLY started slipping on DAY ONE.

It has a LOT to do with how Kevin dials in his torque curve.

Mike