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Old 11-08-2006 | 12:55 PM
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Joe is right, Upsolute while not having a very elegant or the most complete program, is certainly a bargain IF you do not plan future increases. Thats why Ultimate or GIAC makes the most sense for most of us.
Old 11-08-2006 | 02:13 PM
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where the hell is the mr phd?
Old 11-08-2006 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jeff996tt
I was wondering what upgrade would be better. The GIAC software or to have the k24 (gt2) turbos installed. What would give my car the best performance increase. I currently have a 2001 996tt with a billy boat exhaust and upgraded diverter valves.
I wouldn't listen to any of these people. I would stay stock

In reality just get some type of software over upgrading to K24s. I'm honestly not all that keen on straight K24s... You'll get a lot more enjoment for the money from doing the software and sticking with stock turbos for now...
Old 11-08-2006 | 02:46 PM
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He must be in surgery or transcribing...
Old 11-08-2006 | 02:53 PM
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With my programming I can program your ECU remotely. I don't need your ECU nor do I need your car. I can also offer tuning solutions that most can't.. I offer a various number of options, such as- keeping your "stock" Porsche file (there are few companies that can do that)Race gas, high boost, low boost options, bad weather track tuning, Valet programs, Tuning for heavier spring wastegates, and a progression of power when one wants larger turbochargers. I can provide up to 8 different programs in the same programmer, heck it is possible to run 2 seperate programmers, one for the street and one for the track... Thus giving you 16 different maps..

Yes, there are cheaper "chipped" solutions, however, the average time that one stays at a 1bar flash is less than a year.. I offer a $1,000 credit when one steps up to larger turbochargers.. Please realize that with my programmer you are buying hardware and a system. The intial cost might be a few bucks more than the other guy, but in the long run it's offers value.
Old 11-08-2006 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Oak
where the hell is the mr phd?
Replacing the wiring harness in a 997S...Don't ask. Dealers suck!


DO NOT replace just the turbos. I tested this theory once and the car ran near 14AFR under boost. You will have real issues with taking that road. My suggestion is start small and work your way up.

Try the programming with a company like myself that will upgrade and credit what you have paid for previously. Look for companies that show technology on their side. For example the ability to offer stock, performance and race files. One of the things we did was buy a 996TT when they came out. Hell, I tested and tried more things then I care to remember, but the bottom line is we tested some of the first programs, we tested the first switchers and we ran the first flashloaded program in the US. Most if not all were done on my own personal car. If it couldn't make it on mine it didn't. I use mine as a daily driver and still do to this day.

Bottom line is decide what you want/need and what path you are going to take and call and talk to the people that can offer it.

Then make your choice. Not all programs are created equal. There is much more to ECU tunes then the numbers.
Old 11-08-2006 | 05:11 PM
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yeah,..now that's the ol pitch we all know. thought the ol doc was slipp'n.
Old 11-08-2006 | 05:15 PM
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yeah,..now that's the ol pitch we all know. thought the ol doc was slipp'n.

I couldn't leave you hanging Oak! Just call
Old 11-08-2006 | 10:25 PM
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right on, doc!
Old 11-09-2006 | 02:38 AM
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jeff996tt, after going through the 'upgrade shuffle' on many cars over the years, I highly recommend thinking hard about the scope of what you want to achieve and create a plan to get there.

The most expensive route you can take is to buy each upgrade incrementally and then decide that your ultimate goal is something more extreme. An example would be doing a software upgrade, then an exhaust, then turbos (and possibly a new program if you decide on turbos that require a program from a provider that was not the same as the first program provider), then intercoolers, and now you need a better flowing exhaust....etc.

If you make a plan, let's say for 0-60 times in 3.6sec or 1/4 mile times at 11.6, then you may need ~625hp at the crank. You can then decide on a kit that you can build on incrementally which and ensure that each purchase will be compatible with your ultimate goal. This makes for a great incremental experience that lets you stop when you are satisfied, or build to your ultimate goal.

I researched high and low for 6 months to find the right ECU programming for my 01 996 TT. As you know, it is quite a ride of disinformation and information overload.

There are retailers that offer solutions from solder on ECU hardware, to those that need your ECU shipped to them for programming to, what I consider the least obtrusive option, an OBD2 upload from a palm sized programmer.

In my travels to Europe, I always like to pick up any magazine that is focused on 911's for information that we (US folks) can't get local. I ran across an OBD2 programmer that is widely respected as a top solution and programmed by one of the top tuners in the UK. This, through research, I learned was offered in the states by one of the #1 turbo builders in the US, Ultimate Motorwerks.

After contacting Kevin from Ultimate Motorwerks I was taken by his amazing knowledge and customer service. I have to be honest, I have contacted many vendors and each had a unique and conflicting assessment of ECU tuning and the approach. With Kevin, he was very balanced in his assessment and advice.

In taking my own advice, I challenged my ultimate goals and who could provide the most seamless incremental build for my target of matching/beating the 997TT acceleration benchmarks. This demanded programming, hybrid turbos, and ported headers. In my opinion, Kevin from UAW was the right choice to hit my goals and ensure that I didn't play the swap and replace game which would easily double the cost of my project.

I uploaded my Stage 1 program last week that Kevin provided. I have to admit it was even easier that I could have imagined. I plugged the bad boy in to my OBD2 port and in 2 minutes, BAM!, I had another ~75 hp and lbs of torque on hand.

This was step one of my incremental build, and while I contemplated stopping with the Stage 1 software when I created my plan, there was no question in my mind that I wanted the Stage 2 kit after I drove the car with the added hp and tq. Kevin is now building my Stage 2 kit.

Best of luck on your project and I hope my experiences help in your decision process,

Jon
Old 11-09-2006 | 12:56 PM
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Nice explaination!



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