Really need after-market pedals for heel & toe?
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I am trying to learn how to heel & toe. Was able to do it with stock pedals but it's not easy.
Does it just take a lot of practice or I need to install after-market pedals to make it easy? What's your experience? If your after-market pedals help, what would you recommend?
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Does it just take a lot of practice or I need to install after-market pedals to make it easy? What's your experience? If your after-market pedals help, what would you recommend?
Thanks.
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I have Ruf's pedal set. Since they have a slightly larger surface area, they have made heel and toeing much easier. Actually, I use the inner and outer sections of my upper foot to manipulate the brake and throttle, and, prior to the Ruf pedals, I had trouble bridging the gap. Obviously, you need to have the skill down, but when you don't have to fight to keep your foot on both pedals, good results come much easier. The Ruf pedals are quality pieces and great looking. The fit is good, but mine didn't lay completely flush with the car's metal mounting plates (ie. their curves didn't match). Not a big deal after they're mounted, but they should have been made more precise. Hope this helps.
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IMHO, you won't find a better pedal layout for heel-and-toeing in a street car than that in 996. Aftermarket pedals are unnecessary (and won't be on other cars you may drive/race). Practice is key.
And BTW, most don't truly "heel-and-toe", but rather pivot at the ball of the foot on the brake and then roll the right foot to the outside to blip the throttle.
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And BTW, most don't truly "heel-and-toe", but rather pivot at the ball of the foot on the brake and then roll the right foot to the outside to blip the throttle.
CMC
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'02 GT3 Cup
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CMC is almost right. I don't think he's tried a Lotus Elise which has even more perfect pedal placement.
Unlike the 964 which almost can't be heel-toed without a gas pedal attachment (Wings is the best in my opinion) the 996 is really easy. When I put a Wings pedal on it, it was too big and made it hard to hit the brake without a massive blip. I don't know how the Ruf pedals are, but unless you have really small feet, the problem is probably the driver, not the pedals. Remember, you do need to rotate your right heel counterclockwise so it's under the gas pedal. Seems a little odd at first, then it becomes second nature. It's also easier on the track when you're braking harder and using more revs. Hope that helps. AS
Unlike the 964 which almost can't be heel-toed without a gas pedal attachment (Wings is the best in my opinion) the 996 is really easy. When I put a Wings pedal on it, it was too big and made it hard to hit the brake without a massive blip. I don't know how the Ruf pedals are, but unless you have really small feet, the problem is probably the driver, not the pedals. Remember, you do need to rotate your right heel counterclockwise so it's under the gas pedal. Seems a little odd at first, then it becomes second nature. It's also easier on the track when you're braking harder and using more revs. Hope that helps. AS
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i agreed that 996 is one of the easiest cars to heel/toe. rather than rolling my foot to the outside, it's easiest for me to just pivit my foot on the brake and blip throttle with heel. yes, it feels strange until you get used to it and do it fast. btw, you really have to be braking pretty hard to heel/toe, otherwise it's harder and perhaps not necessary.
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I bought the Ruf pedals as well. They didn’t help me any with my boxster. My TT is a tip and I doubt that I would buy them again if I were to go back to a six speed.
The pedals sure do look nice however.
The pedals sure do look nice however.