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06-17-2003, 09:34 PM

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<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Frank Sinatra:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by William S:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Joe Castellanos:
Yes Cane and thank you for your keen observation. It is early morning in Italy and I obviously didnt call Bugatti just now... <hr /></blockquote>Bugatti is in Molsheim. That's in France.<hr /></blockquote>Actually, on the Bugatti Website, it says Molsheim is in Germany.<hr /></blockquote>Molsheim says it's in France ;-)

<a href="http://www.mairie-molsheim.fr/" target="_blank">http://www.mairie-molsheim.fr/</a>

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06-17-2003, 09:39 PM

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You never mentioned that you had ordered a Veyron. Congratulations!! I'm sure the comparison test with the TT will be great.

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06-17-2003, 09:45 PM

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The rear of the Zonda is horrible, that exhaust arrangement is beyond ugly. Not that I can afford it, but still . . .

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06-17-2003, 10:16 PM

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<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by William S:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Frank Sinatra:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by William S:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Joe Castellanos:
Yes Cane and thank you for your keen observation. It is early morning in Italy and I obviously didnt call Bugatti just now... <hr /></blockquote>Bugatti is in Molsheim. That's in France.<hr /></blockquote>Actually, on the Bugatti Website, it says Molsheim is in Germany.<hr /></blockquote>Molsheim says it's in France ;-)

<a href="http://www.mairie-molsheim.fr/" target="_blank">http://www.mairie-molsheim.fr/</a><hr /></blockquote>Thats kind of strange. I was reading the newest Car & Driver, and they are also saying its in France. However the offical Bugatti website says its in Germany. Maybe there was some kind of change in the Border during one of the World Wars. Click on the link below, and you can read it. I didnt know how to link it to the exact page. But go to history, and jump ahead to 1909, thats were the German coment is. Maybe later I will e-mail Bugatti about this. In any case, Joe isnt completley off with his Italian phone call coment. The EB110, witch he owned, was produced in Italy. Im not sure were the company has currently set up shop. Oh well, maybe we can get to the BOttom of this. <img border="0" alt="[bigbye]" title="" src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

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06-17-2003, 10:20 PM

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And one more comment, Molsheim, is spelled like a german word, and pronounced like one too! The EI in Molsheim is used in alot of German words. It doesnt sound to French.

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06-17-2003, 10:24 PM

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Ah ha, I figured it out Will. It was a border discrepancy. This link explains it.

<a href="http://www.ktsmotorsportsgarage.com/rodeo98/pages/bugatti.html" target="_blank">http://www.ktsmotorsportsgarage.com/rodeo98/pages/bugatti.html</a>

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06-17-2003, 10:27 PM

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<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by cjv:
August 2004 for #17.<hr /></blockquote>Dang, Congrats CJV. That should be one hell of a ride. Have fun, and tell her Hi for me.

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06-17-2003, 10:44 PM

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Dude: If you are looking for "original" and something that you have to spend a lot of time to "explain to people what it is", I have the perfect solution.

A 1972 Pinto Wagon, tubbed out rear with monster slicks and wheelie bars and a 604 cid hemi with a quad rotor whipple charger up front pumping 1000hp on pump gas. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
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That'll get you all the attention you will ever want!

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06-17-2003, 10:50 PM

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<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by cjv:
The old Bugatti Estate is in France. It is owned by the Bugatti company. The Bugatti company is German owned. I believe it was Italian owned before the German's bought it.<hr /></blockquote>Agreed, Click on this link. It explains will and I's battle. Go to the the second link, to see what the official Bugatti website said. Go to History, and 1909 thats were the German Comment is.
<a href="http://www.ktsmotorsportsgarage.com/rodeo98/pages/bugatti.html" target="_blank">http://www.ktsmotorsportsgarage.com/rodeo98/pages/bugatti.html</a>

<a href="http://www.bugatti-cars.de/bugatti/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.bugatti-cars.de/bugatti/index.html</a>

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06-18-2003, 12:12 AM

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06-18-2003, 01:34 AM

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has anyone ordered a c-gt? if you have, when is your delivery, and what are you paying, in relation to msrp? any lease prices?

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06-18-2003, 09:30 AM

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You Guys are all sick.
Ok not really but how nice it must be to consider which car to buy. Last Frankfurt Auto show 2001, Bugatti was stating they were all German. That's all I remember. cjv what kind of stable do you have? The only thing I have close to my dream is my saving's plan for my future Turbo thats 4 years away yet.

Oh well another thing to shoot for.

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06-18-2003, 11:29 AM

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CJV - I'm curious about the storage of older cars; you seem to have some experience in the matter.

In addition to the typical items you mentioned, do you think it'd be valuable to exercise the mechanical components of the car? Running/driving the vehicle would be ideal, but then you'd have to re drain it, etc...

What do you think of making a modified Dyno of sorts? Instead of the dyno being turned by the car's wheels however, you'd have an electric motor on the "dyno" that would turn the car's wheels, and in turn, exercise the engine when the car was put into gear.

Unless I'm missing something obvious, such a device would keep the rings and valves from seizing into place, would pump some fresh oil through the system and would even keep differentials, clutch bearings, and lots of other things in better shape than if they just sat static for years on end.

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06-18-2003, 01:20 PM

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<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by cjv:
soon2be993tt,

With the exception of the CLK60 and the Dino GT Spyder, I rarely drive the other cars (once or twice a year). Even the CLK60 and Dino are only driven occassionally. The others are on blocks, fuel/water drained and the engines fogged. The Dino is a 1972 with 8200 miles on it. The CLK60 is a 99 with about 8000 miles. Now don't laugh, my daily driver is a Mercury Sable. On one of the recent cjv/s car go pics, the blue Sable is in the back ground. No, it is not modified.<hr /></blockquote>a Sable? That's great

I remember you mentioning that some time ago.

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06-18-2003, 01:43 PM

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I laugh every time you mention the Sable. Out of curiosity why did you choose the Sable as a daily driver. Obviously you can afford a more fun daily driver and certainly a safer one. I would think you care about your safety. More power, better brakes, side airbags, responsiveness all help to either avoid or survive an accident. So for both fun and safety the Sable falls very short. Also, how can you actually enjoy driving a Sable? Heck, if you want to be very low key then the Honda Accord can offer a much safer and more enjoyable experience while maintaining an inexpensive image.

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