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Old 10-21-2005 | 08:45 PM
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Blipping is what your toe does in heel-n-toe (while the ball of your foot is finishing up braking).......so 'blipping the throttle' (something 996 turbo's don't do real well) is part of heel-n-toe execution.

Also......maybe Scott caught it above, but at begin of thread you asked about getting it in gear before or after turn............answer, before (especially with these cars). Power-on through turn.
Braking (and shifting) after turn-in is generally not the best approach.
Old 10-21-2005 | 10:02 PM
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Old 10-21-2005 | 11:17 PM
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Gregg nailed it as usual.

Blipping or rev matching is just part of the heel toe move. You may also blip when just plain down shifting like before passing or overtaking someone on the highway. Since you won't brake then, but are only down shifting, you'll want to blip (aka rev match) before going into a lower gear.

Heel toe is incorporating that aspect of the downshift while brakingn simultaneously.
Old 10-25-2005 | 10:55 PM
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Pedals make a difference to a point, but "feel" with the shoe (driving or loafer) is the key. Try different shoes until one is found that works best. And practice...
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Old 10-26-2005 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BoneDaddy
Pedals make a difference to a point, but "feel" with the shoe (driving or loafer) is the key. Try different shoes until one is found that works best. And practice...
Agree 100%. I'm smoothest when wearing my Piloti's, with regular street shoes or others with thicker soles I lose the "feel".
Old 10-27-2005 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tkerrmd
Is 'blipping" and heel toe the same thing?? I thought real heel toe was staying on the gas and brake and always keeping the rpms up while blipping is just putting the car in desired gear then blip gas to let clutch out?! What do I know?

tom
It also depends on your turn-in angle and speed, the radius of the turn, and how you want to exit the turn. You may follow the heel-n-toe with trailing brake, or immediately switch to a holding pattern on the throttle for a steady state turn, or a power on oversteer soon after to exit a tight turn.

What you don't get from practicing heel-n-toe on the hiway or streets is the strategy you'll need immediately after the heel-n-toe operation. It could be another rapid heel-n-toe downshift under massive braking, or one of the above applications. Bottomline is you need speed followed by a rapid change of road course to get the most out of heel-n-toe.

On the hiway and streets you have so much time you don't even have to do heel-n-toe. Just brake to slow a bit (if you even have to do that), foot off brake to blip, change gear, and continue going or decelerating. You don't want to brake so hard for so long or the guy behind you will ram into you.




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