Why are 993TTs Worth More?
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Why are 993TTs Worth More?
Looking at the market place I'm wondering why some 1996-97 993TT's are worth more or about the same as some 2001-02 996TT's?
I know there is the lure and appeal of the air-cooled "original" turbos...but still doesn't newer technology, fewer miles and less years have a value?
Just curious...
I know there is the lure and appeal of the air-cooled "original" turbos...but still doesn't newer technology, fewer miles and less years have a value?
Just curious...
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I pondered this as well while looking for another turbo. I think the main reason is just supply. The 996tt was produced in greater numbers than the 993tt. I have owned both and they both have their own advantages. They both are great cars.
Also, I wonder if these sellers are getting the high advertised prices on the 993tts. I have noticed a few more on EBAY these days at cheaper prices than just a couple of months ago.
Also, I wonder if these sellers are getting the high advertised prices on the 993tts. I have noticed a few more on EBAY these days at cheaper prices than just a couple of months ago.
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Far more 996tts were made, and for many traditionalists, the air-cooled Pcars are more interesting. It seems some folks also like the looks of the 993 more than the 996, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, after all.
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Looking at the market place I'm wondering why some 1996-97 993TT's are worth more or about the same as some 2001-02 996TT's?
I know there is the lure and appeal of the air-cooled "original" turbos...but still doesn't newer technology, fewer miles and less years have a value?
Just curious...
I know there is the lure and appeal of the air-cooled "original" turbos...but still doesn't newer technology, fewer miles and less years have a value?
Just curious...
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Porsche's tend to take a nose dive after the release of the next generation, then even out. When the 996 came out, the pricess of 993s went down fast and hard and then leveled out. the 996 will do the same in a year or two. Although the 6's were mass produced as compared to the 3's, only time will tell. Having had seat time in both, I love my 996!
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996TT rocks.. 993 interior and yes exterior (although nice) looks old.
I find mostly older (no offense :P ) drivers and purists prefer the 993T over 996TT. I love my 99TT and it feels much more of a modern car.
I find mostly older (no offense :P ) drivers and purists prefer the 993T over 996TT. I love my 99TT and it feels much more of a modern car.
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Originally Posted by soltino
I think that it's the similarity to the 997. even though the 997 Turbo may be very different.
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Anyone who knows that they want a 993 Turbo has little concern for what's happening on the 997......the upside of that whole parallel, is on the 997 side...... (sales of that car benefited by the Porsche's Marketing team telling Design what they needed).
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993TT owners can shout out things like last of the aircooled, raw, feel, etc, but what I think it really boils down to is supply. If you are in the market for a 993TT, you will find that the supply is REALLY small and that high end used car dealers like Premier or Wilhoit or ? are keeping the asking price of nice examples really high.
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So you think there is little or no value that a 10 year old car looks like a new one?
Even though i do think that if the 997 had been more of an evolution of the 996, that the 993 would then be more collectible; so i guess it was win, win for the 993. (-%
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Even though i do think that if the 997 had been more of an evolution of the 996, that the 993 would then be more collectible; so i guess it was win, win for the 993. (-%
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So you think there is little or no value that a 10 year old car looks like a new one?
Even though i do think that if the 997 had been more of an evolution of the 996, that the 993 would then be more collectible; so i guess it was win, win for the 993. (-%
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Even though i do think that if the 997 had been more of an evolution of the 996, that the 993 would then be more collectible; so i guess it was win, win for the 993. (-%
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Originally Posted by soltino
Does.
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If I may - the market price for 993TTs has been perpetually high in relation to the 996TT. In other words, long before anyone had even the slightest idea what the next generation 911 would look like (997), the 993TT was still selling for a premium, when compared to the next generation (996) or the previous (forgotten) generation (964) and 930. Why this situation exists is open to just about any interpretation, but I don't think there is any logical basis for arguing that it has the slightest thing to do with the look of the latest generation 911. If anything, one would expect that if this was the case, the price of 993TTs would be dropping, since a newer, more technologically advanced vehicle with the same look (according to you), could be had for roughly the same price as a premium 993TT. This is not the case. Ultimately, a large segment of buyers in the used market for the past several years have an attachment to the nostalgic value of the air-cooled powerplants and they are willing to pay a premium for them. There is a certain emotion evoked by the air-cooled cars and the 993TT represents the pinnacle of that engineering - that is the primary reason for the high relative value. Please enlighten us by expanding your reasoning, for those of us who are failing to see the virtue of your argument.
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clearly supply but also the "classic" or "not to modern" look of the 993. i have seen some pics of 996tt over here that could be any other sports car - some like modern some not.
you will recognize a 993 as a porsche even if it is far away. you can even hear it.
what i have found out over the years is that i always liked the "before-generation".
when 993 came out i liked the 964 more and did not like the 993 at all.
when 996 came out i liked the 993 more and i found the 996 really ugly.
now that 997 is out i am starting to like SOME 996 like the C4S or GT2.
for me that is a nice thing so i dont need to take the deprecation for the latest model...
you will recognize a 993 as a porsche even if it is far away. you can even hear it.
what i have found out over the years is that i always liked the "before-generation".
when 993 came out i liked the 964 more and did not like the 993 at all.
when 996 came out i liked the 993 more and i found the 996 really ugly.
now that 997 is out i am starting to like SOME 996 like the C4S or GT2.
for me that is a nice thing so i dont need to take the deprecation for the latest model...
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In a goog faith effort to keep this discussion from going in many directions; please answer this hypothetical:
The 997 Turbo comes out and looks exactly like a 993 Turbo.
What do you think would be the effect on their prices?
Would the value go up for the 993 Turbo and would the value of the new turbo be affected?
tino
PS please expand on why you think that a ten year old car looking like a new car reduces the old car's value.
The 997 Turbo comes out and looks exactly like a 993 Turbo.
What do you think would be the effect on their prices?
Would the value go up for the 993 Turbo and would the value of the new turbo be affected?
tino
PS please expand on why you think that a ten year old car looking like a new car reduces the old car's value.