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Old 03-18-2004, 11:47 AM
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Default any major difference between '01 and '04 Turbo?

Dealer called saying they had '04 Turbo, 1300 miles for $119k. Probably a pretty good price but I only wanted an '01.. which can be had around $80-90k (my price range).

Just curious what the '04 brings to the table besides being newer.

Thanks in advance.

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Old 03-18-2004, 12:12 PM
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Glove box, Bose and no bumperettes to name a few.
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so nothing major then.. if so thanks.
Old 03-18-2004, 03:06 PM
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Having just gone through this -- I was not able to find any major changes. I think only the very early builds had the bumperettes -- I never saw one with them!

Most of the 01's do not have the hollow turbo wheels -- you can check -- if they have ribs in the rear of the spoke it is not hollow

The later cars have the glove box - A nice thing to have since there is not much room.

Also Bose standard -- This is a plus if you were never going to do any changes to the system. It is a minus if you were, because the system has integrated amps making changes more complex.

The 01 certified from Porsche was a good way for me to go - I felt that it was a better buy than a new one. Also in reality I would not have spent the money for a new turbo. With the drop in value of a new C2 I felt that the 01 was a good value.

Also it looks like it will be around even after the new 997 comes out.
Old 03-18-2004, 03:19 PM
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FWIW, I have an '01 and I could not be happier. I don't miss the glove box at all, but I sure would like a cupholder

Old 03-18-2004, 03:23 PM
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04 has PCM II as standard equipment...also 02 on have rain sensor and self-dimming rearview mirrors (inside and driver side outsdide) as standard...
Old 03-18-2004, 05:05 PM
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'02 has rain sensor?! lol
I didn't know I had that. I need to mess with it now.
I haven't been in the rain with it much, and when I was, I didn't notice. lol
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I read somewhere in these posts that the body structure has been significantly stiffened for '02 and on.
Old 03-18-2004, 08:56 PM
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Body stiffness no different from 01 to 04 turbo. Non turbo the 02 was about 25 percent more rigid.
Old 03-19-2004, 10:05 AM
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02 onward Turbos are in fact 25% stiffer.

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nav system became standard in 2003 in improved form.

also the 2 additional years of warranty coverage becomes a substantial advantage in a porsche certified car with 100k warranty--just think, that 2004 would be covered by a transferable porsche warranty until 2010 if you are under 100k mi!
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nav not standard in 03, only 04
03 however did get a new PCM II which is DVD based and a million times better than its predecessor (bigger screen too)
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msindi

my 2003 996 tt did come with nav as standard equipment--perhaps as a midyear change?

i don't think we have dvd based nav system. just a better cd based system than the 2001.

the bmw and lexus nav systems are much better. too bad they come attached to bmw's and lexi

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Originally posted by RWO
02 onward Turbos are in fact 25% stiffer.

Roy
Roy, what is your source for this information? My understanding was that the stiffer chassis was just on the 996 coupe/cab, and was done in conjunction with a suspension change - none of which affected the TT.

My source of information is my dealer. Obviously a dealer can be wrong, or worse yet Porsche or the dealer could have intentionally withheld information so folks like me would purchase the remaining late '01s. That's why I am asking about your source of information.


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Hey Pete,

Another TT owner and I had a long running argument about this, he said it was, I said it was not. Finally, I asked a contact of mine who worked for PCNA to get me the final word. PCNA faxed me 6 pages of information out of their Service Guides and Sales Guides that said the 02 cars were stiffer than the 01 cars. I lost the argument...

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