Opinions on Suspension - Ohlins, PSS10 or Bilstein Shocks
#76
#77
good info! thanks... we are running my stock GT2/Bilstein coilovers in my dad's 6tt, same idea
Rates are different, and when I was researching coilovers I found to make up for the different size of the shock mounting point on the upright they supply a sleeve in the turbo kit that fits over the shock body that isn't included in the GT kit. The sleeve is removable if decides to go with GT3 uprights (good luck finding those though).
#80
I bought my car used with some H&R coil overs. The rear struts were leaking so rather than rebuilding them, I purchased a set of Ohlins R&T from Ira at Tarrett a few months ago. The H&R coil overs that came with the car had helper springs which leads me to believe they were quite stiff springs. The stock R&T springs were WAY too soft for my taste; but the compliance on the R&T are amazing. I asked Ira to send me a stiffer set of springs (Swift) and went as stiff as Ohlins USA recommended. These Swift springs are still way too soft for my liking; If I wanted to go stiffer, I'd have to revalve them for another $650 (plus more down time). And for some reason, Ira took it upon himself to send me 180mm length front springs rather than stock R&T 200mm length ones. Now, the sway bar drop links don't fit properly and I hear a lot of clunking up front when I drive over bumps. I wish I had just rebuilt the H&R ones.
And the camber plates don't offer any noticeable improvement, just a lot of extra noise. I regret having spent all that $$.
And the camber plates don't offer any noticeable improvement, just a lot of extra noise. I regret having spent all that $$.
#81
Ohlins Amateur hour strikes again - next question for the squad: for those who installed, what ride height did you choose? Any pictures? Thinking that I'll start with dampening at 10 clicks and going from there + GT2 alignment, but unsure about ride height. Obviously subjective and dependent on use/location, but would love to see some of your finished products.
Thanks,
Joe
Thanks,
Joe
#82
I bought my car used with some H&R coil overs. The rear struts were leaking so rather than rebuilding them, I purchased a set of Ohlins R&T from Ira at Tarrett a few months ago. The H&R coil overs that came with the car had helper springs which leads me to believe they were quite stiff springs. The stock R&T springs were WAY too soft for my taste; but the compliance on the R&T are amazing. I asked Ira to send me a stiffer set of springs (Swift) and went as stiff as Ohlins USA recommended. These Swift springs are still way too soft for my liking; If I wanted to go stiffer, I'd have to revalve them for another $650 (plus more down time). And for some reason, Ira took it upon himself to send me 180mm length front springs rather than stock R&T 200mm length ones. Now, the sway bar drop links don't fit properly and I hear a lot of clunking up front when I drive over bumps. I wish I had just rebuilt the H&R ones.
And the camber plates don't offer any noticeable improvement, just a lot of extra noise. I regret having spent all that $$.
And the camber plates don't offer any noticeable improvement, just a lot of extra noise. I regret having spent all that $$.
#83
Ohlins DFV install happens this week. For posterity and future reference - my initial test specs:
Will update once they've been on for a bit and whether adjustments become necessary and why. For those who also recently ordered, would be interesting to add your approach to compare notes!
-Joe
- Ride Height, as measured from ground to fender/quarter (knowing there are other ways to measure) - 25.25" Front / 25.75' Rear
- Dampening - 10 Front / 10 Rear
- Alignment - OEM GT2
- street only; mainly local back roads
- sometimes bumpy/potholes
- Somewhat aggressive to aggressive
- Highway to gym during the week and beach on summer weekends (160 miles rd trip).
Will update once they've been on for a bit and whether adjustments become necessary and why. For those who also recently ordered, would be interesting to add your approach to compare notes!
-Joe
Last edited by Evolution; 02-27-2018 at 03:08 PM.
#85
#86
I ordered the parts for the Bose extension, but admittedly don't really know what they are. I figured at this point I'd (a) subscribe to Ohlins's guidance on the install and (b) just do it correctly even if it isn't 100% necessary (is it?):
#87
24631-01 (x2)
24632-02 (x2)
24633-01 (x2)
24633-02 (x2)
Where did you buy them? How much they cost you? When you install your ohlins, you won't be able to easily adjust the damping in the rear because of the Bose shelf. Every time you want to change damping in rear, you will need to remove the rear shelf.
#88
Yes. I got these part numbers from Ohlin which look to be the same what Evolution posts below.
24631-01 (x2)
24632-02 (x2)
24633-01 (x2)
24633-02 (x2)
Where did you buy them? How much they cost you? When you install your ohlins, you won't be able to easily adjust the damping in the rear because of the Bose shelf. Every time you want to change damping in rear, you will need to remove the rear shelf.
24631-01 (x2)
24632-02 (x2)
24633-01 (x2)
24633-02 (x2)
Where did you buy them? How much they cost you? When you install your ohlins, you won't be able to easily adjust the damping in the rear because of the Bose shelf. Every time you want to change damping in rear, you will need to remove the rear shelf.
-Joe
#89
I got them from Ben at Performance Shock in Sonoma - cannot recommend them enough, incredible Customer Service and definite enthusiasts. Was around $115 shipped for those parts. Regarding the rear install on cars with Bose, I'm working with my tech to think about a creative solution for more accessible adjustment (the "design imperative" being to ensure the parcel shelf is unmistakably unmodified visually); I'll be sure to update if we come up with a good solution for that.
-Joe
-Joe
I'm slightly confused by this statement: "I'm working with my tech to think about a creative solution for more accessible adjustment", don't the extender parts you bought solve the issue? They just stick past the bose shelf. I actually never seem them installed on a 996tt, but I'm assuming that's all there is to them.
#90
Yes. I got these part numbers from Ohlin which look to be the same what Evolution posts below.
24631-01 (x2)
24632-02 (x2)
24633-01 (x2)
24633-02 (x2)
Where did you buy them? How much they cost you? When you install your ohlins, you won't be able to easily adjust the damping in the rear because of the Bose shelf. Every time you want to change damping in rear, you will need to remove the rear shelf.
24631-01 (x2)
24632-02 (x2)
24633-01 (x2)
24633-02 (x2)
Where did you buy them? How much they cost you? When you install your ohlins, you won't be able to easily adjust the damping in the rear because of the Bose shelf. Every time you want to change damping in rear, you will need to remove the rear shelf.
Thanks Joe, I'll contact Performance Shocks and order a set.
I'm slightly confused by this statement: "I'm working with my tech to think about a creative solution for more accessible adjustment", don't the extender parts you bought solve the issue? They just stick past the bose shelf. I actually never seem them installed on a 996tt, but I'm assuming that's all there is to them.
I'm slightly confused by this statement: "I'm working with my tech to think about a creative solution for more accessible adjustment", don't the extender parts you bought solve the issue? They just stick past the bose shelf. I actually never seem them installed on a 996tt, but I'm assuming that's all there is to them.
With regard to the Bose issue - I'm actually not 100% clear on what those parts actually are, so you may be right (it WOULD make sense, especially after actually reading the part descriptions in the attachment I posted). For some reason I assumed they were rerouting Bose wiring to accommodate the damper install, but an actual solution for adjustment would make more sense - and certainly would be an expectation given the renowned quality of Ohlins solutions. I think the lack of pictures of the actual install are creating confusion. When the parts come in, we'll know. If they are indeed extensions for the damper adjustment, then my statement would be confusing because it would be irrelevant!
-Joe