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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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My 2005 GT3 requires the clutch to be depressed. I always leave my cars in gear so it is a good thing to depress the clutch while starting
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 01:23 PM
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I've never tried to start mine without the "extra pedal" being used - pure muscle memory that my foot depresses the pedal before I turn the key.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 01:24 PM
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FWIW, I "like" the extra pedal. Yeah, PDK is uber fast, I know.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 02:03 PM
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Here's one of the threads that discusses the reason for (and the way to) take that clutch safety switch out of the system.

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-turb...-445-00-a.html

There was another thread started in 2005 that discussed it as well. Both were with reference to 996TT or GT2s, so I don't know how relevant they are to the 996 GT3. But the principle is the same -- when you step on the clutch, and turn over the engine, the force applied to the crankshaft through the (depressed) clutch, coupled with the lack of oil pressure in the non-running engine, loads the crankshaft against the thrust collar on the No. 1 main bearing and can cause premature wear on the bearing. I'm not sure of the magnitude of the concern and the likelihood of real damage, but I choose not to take a chance. So I never press the clutch pedal while starting the engine. The downsides of this technique are that if you happen to leave the car in gear and "forget," you could be sorry. And also, you'll be asking the starter motor to rotate the transmission mainshaft, which can take significant power if the transmission oil is cold and viscous.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 02:50 PM
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I start mine in N, no clutch, I'm in Europe.

My brother had a 2010 Golf GTD and you had to press the clutch to be able to start it, also Euro car. I was surprised as I thought only U.S cars had this.
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 01:47 AM
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First 'mod' anyone should do IMO...of course be aware of any potential legal/safety issues.
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Old May 2, 2019 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by christallon
I zip tied my micro switch so it is always in the open position so I don't need to use the clutch. I have trained myself to leave the car in neutral. I come from the early car world where these micro switches never existed.
Good idea.

Is the switch in the pedal cluster?
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