7:15 Nürburgring Nordschleife BTG lap time in my 996
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Yep, the street version from the 24hr winning race car - back in that time the Manthey 996s with these body kits were dominating the races at the Ring.
I keep forgetting the specs but they were like:
- XX kg lighter
- XX kg more downforce
- XX cm wider
With 997&991 models Porsche success at the Ring became history, and its now the rival brands winning all the VLN's and 24h's there....So, gotta love the 996s.
Sure all newer platforms are much better (due to suspension geometry and downforce), but I still remember the moment when they moved from the 996 to 997 and lap times got worse...it was so optimized.
There was also another street 996 GT3 converted to a GT3 RSR body:
For more pics of that, http://www.racetracker.de//event/mor...8d1cc8438fd6b4
I keep forgetting the specs but they were like:
- XX kg lighter
- XX kg more downforce
- XX cm wider
With 997&991 models Porsche success at the Ring became history, and its now the rival brands winning all the VLN's and 24h's there....So, gotta love the 996s.
Sure all newer platforms are much better (due to suspension geometry and downforce), but I still remember the moment when they moved from the 996 to 997 and lap times got worse...it was so optimized.
There was also another street 996 GT3 converted to a GT3 RSR body:
For more pics of that, http://www.racetracker.de//event/mor...8d1cc8438fd6b4
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Tires are just 235/305 Pirelli Trofeo R.
Suspension is KW Clubsport with 70/150 N/mm spring rates. This suspension came for 4WD 996 Turbo from KW with 70/190 N/mm rates but I had to put bit softer rear springs to help with the rear grip. The rates are 400/860 in American figures.
Whether this is the optimal setup for the bumpy ring...hard to say, I doubt so, as the car is often so challenge to drive fast (not in the video, as it was a smooth lap). I believe the next step would be a new 3-way setup if I want better performance.
P.S. Yes the spring rates are awfully low for some of your eyes, but still difficult to find street cars with street legal tires going under 7:15 BTG in Youtube, I have found a tuned E92 M3 race car with plates and a fully tuned Nissan GTR to do so. (Going under 7:15 is nothing too crazy - I just notice not many videos apart from factory tests, as it's still difficult to do so.).
Suspension is KW Clubsport with 70/150 N/mm spring rates. This suspension came for 4WD 996 Turbo from KW with 70/190 N/mm rates but I had to put bit softer rear springs to help with the rear grip. The rates are 400/860 in American figures.
Whether this is the optimal setup for the bumpy ring...hard to say, I doubt so, as the car is often so challenge to drive fast (not in the video, as it was a smooth lap). I believe the next step would be a new 3-way setup if I want better performance.
P.S. Yes the spring rates are awfully low for some of your eyes, but still difficult to find street cars with street legal tires going under 7:15 BTG in Youtube, I have found a tuned E92 M3 race car with plates and a fully tuned Nissan GTR to do so. (Going under 7:15 is nothing too crazy - I just notice not many videos apart from factory tests, as it's still difficult to do so.).
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That's still am amazing time vs the 7:56 the factory driver put out in it.
I think I should try those tires out. I guess your running 19" wheels for those sizes. only go up to 295's with 18"
I think I should try those tires out. I guess your running 19" wheels for those sizes. only go up to 295's with 18"
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Yep I made the choice to 19" as wanted a wider street legal rear tire than 295 (and easier for big brakes as not sure which 18" fit). Nitto's etc. not available in Europe easily. Would I prefer big fat 18"s? Sure...
Btw. Lap times in a 20km+ track between pros and amateurs is bit difficult to compare. What is sure I can improve given similar conditions again.
Compared to record times you should add for myself +22 sec for not driving the main straight in BTG configuration, but deduct 2 sec for starting from the pits (otherwise you start at 300km/h with rolling start) and then deduct the small straight of old pits (T13 section) of around 5 sec which is not measured in record times by factories or journalists, because they use the old pit entrance. That could make that lap a 7:30 full lap with some traffic and having to ease of the throttle a lot in Fuchsröhre due to soft/low rear suspension.
Factory claims sub-7.30 times for 991GT3/RS/TurboS models as well as for 997GT2RS/RS4.0 models. However, independent tests by pro drivers show sub 7:30 times only for 991RS and 997GT2RS, the rest of those did 7:30+.
So, buy a cheap 996TT and spend big bucks and you have yourself a lap time king. Actually, spending big bucks is relative, as 996 GT2 prices have grown a lot so it could make sense...Apart from the sh*tty resale value vs. an authentic GT2..
Btw. Lap times in a 20km+ track between pros and amateurs is bit difficult to compare. What is sure I can improve given similar conditions again.
Compared to record times you should add for myself +22 sec for not driving the main straight in BTG configuration, but deduct 2 sec for starting from the pits (otherwise you start at 300km/h with rolling start) and then deduct the small straight of old pits (T13 section) of around 5 sec which is not measured in record times by factories or journalists, because they use the old pit entrance. That could make that lap a 7:30 full lap with some traffic and having to ease of the throttle a lot in Fuchsröhre due to soft/low rear suspension.
Factory claims sub-7.30 times for 991GT3/RS/TurboS models as well as for 997GT2RS/RS4.0 models. However, independent tests by pro drivers show sub 7:30 times only for 991RS and 997GT2RS, the rest of those did 7:30+.
So, buy a cheap 996TT and spend big bucks and you have yourself a lap time king. Actually, spending big bucks is relative, as 996 GT2 prices have grown a lot so it could make sense...Apart from the sh*tty resale value vs. an authentic GT2..