right rear swaybar link loosens on shock. fell off into driveshaft
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NOW BROKEN NEW LINK! rear swaybar link loosens on shock. fell off into driveshaft
With car lowered the link going from swaybar to shock is angled back so as it goes up and down it loosens link mount on shock on right rear side and tightens left rear shock mount despite double collar locktite etc. Have to tighten right rear every track day otherwise get clunk. It got loose and broke once.
Does anyone make shorter swaybar links to shock mounts ? So link will be 90 degrees To ground And won't loosen the shock mount.
Shop is gonna make a custom one but figured this problem is not new.
Out of town and can't seem to download pic from phone
Thx
Mike
Does anyone make shorter swaybar links to shock mounts ? So link will be 90 degrees To ground And won't loosen the shock mount.
Shop is gonna make a custom one but figured this problem is not new.
Out of town and can't seem to download pic from phone
Thx
Mike
Last edited by mkk62; 05-26-2013 at 12:04 AM.
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The collar on the coilover body can move/ spin so that you shouldn't have this issue. Put it where geometry is right and lock it in.
I'd probably replace the link too in case the threads are screwed up. I found drop links through rock auto for like 20% the cost of the OEM part
I'd probably replace the link too in case the threads are screwed up. I found drop links through rock auto for like 20% the cost of the OEM part
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I had similar issue with mine, and although having adjustable links too I moved right sway bar link mount (which are aftermarket ones) below the collar. This way the movement of the link tightens the mount against the collar, not vv.
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You shouldn't have any preload on the drop links with the car at rest. Adjustable links like the Tarrett ones suggested by ninerguru should provide the solution.
However COMMA if you're snapping links due to lower geometry, then you better also check the toe links unless you already have an adjustable set in there. Dial out the bump steer... just saying...
I just 'got' Mike's comment about the shock... if you're damper's shot that could be part of the issue.
However COMMA if you're snapping links due to lower geometry, then you better also check the toe links unless you already have an adjustable set in there. Dial out the bump steer... just saying...
I just 'got' Mike's comment about the shock... if you're damper's shot that could be part of the issue.
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Thx guys. New shocks. Jrz's pros. All toe links were changed including dog bones bump steer toe links.
Will post pics and try to order adjustable tarret ones. Back in town tomorrow. It seems that when car is lowered stock link from sway bar to shock mount( ?sway bar link?) has to angle so need adjustable or custom one. Keep u posted. Thx again
Mike
Will post pics and try to order adjustable tarret ones. Back in town tomorrow. It seems that when car is lowered stock link from sway bar to shock mount( ?sway bar link?) has to angle so need adjustable or custom one. Keep u posted. Thx again
Mike
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here are the pics shock mount was changed to new and extra collar placed...will look for the adjustable tarret ones...on that pic of the red tarret link does it go from sway bar to shock?..cant tell on pic
you can see where the drive shaft got eaten away a little and the broken mount....any links where to buy the aftermarket shock mounts and links would be appreciated...
mike
you can see where the drive shaft got eaten away a little and the broken mount....any links where to buy the aftermarket shock mounts and links would be appreciated...
mike
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You don't need new shock mounts. All you need is a set of adjustable drop links from Tarret Engineering which you can find here here. You'll need part# GT3RDLNK from the drop down menu. As some one else mentioned, they should be adjusted such that they have no preload while the car is on the ground. Also, a good measure it to put a collar on top and bottom of the drop link mount on the shock. Have this exact setup on my 6GT3 with motons.
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Something very wrong in your photo there, looks like the drop link mount has also come into contact with drive shaft.
Has the top mount has been rotated backwards to keep the link away from the alien shock oil pipe, thereby creating an odd angle causing it to snap ??
I be inclined to re adjust that pipe out the way, then straighten up your drop link, fitting a Tarret's not going to correct the problem.
Has the top mount has been rotated backwards to keep the link away from the alien shock oil pipe, thereby creating an odd angle causing it to snap ??
I be inclined to re adjust that pipe out the way, then straighten up your drop link, fitting a Tarret's not going to correct the problem.
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Something very wrong in your photo there, looks like the drop link mount has also come into contact with drive shaft.
Has the top mount has been rotated backwards to keep the link away from the alien shock oil pipe, thereby creating an odd angle causing it to snap ??
I be inclined to re adjust that pipe out the way, then straighten up your drop link, fitting a Tarret's not going to correct the problem.
Has the top mount has been rotated backwards to keep the link away from the alien shock oil pipe, thereby creating an odd angle causing it to snap ??
I be inclined to re adjust that pipe out the way, then straighten up your drop link, fitting a Tarret's not going to correct the problem.
Solution to this problem is a shorter and adjustable droplink and a collar above the mount to secure it.
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Well I realise the shock doesn't rotate. Isn't the reason the drop links at wrong angle because it should be secured from INSIDE the top mount and not from out side ??
This would of course affect link connection to sway bar, which my or may not matter, can't tell without seeing it.
Can't the mount itself move up the shock more to accommodate link length, or is it already at end of its thread ??
I still maintain the problems the fact an after market shocks' been fitted which has an oil pipe that's in conflict with the drop link bar, and that link bar mount has been rotated away (to the right) and cause the odd angle. And that fitting an expensive shorter drop link will only increase the already wrong angle.
This would of course affect link connection to sway bar, which my or may not matter, can't tell without seeing it.
Can't the mount itself move up the shock more to accommodate link length, or is it already at end of its thread ??
I still maintain the problems the fact an after market shocks' been fitted which has an oil pipe that's in conflict with the drop link bar, and that link bar mount has been rotated away (to the right) and cause the odd angle. And that fitting an expensive shorter drop link will only increase the already wrong angle.
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Also, I get that the adjustable drop links are nice because there's typically no rubber in them, but you don't need them to take the preload out of the sway bar...the reason the mount collar spins on the coilover is so that you can use that to adjust preload on the bars without adjustable links.
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Thx. Thanks by the way there is a collar added above the shock mount after this pic and despite that because of the geometry the link loosens the right collar.
To clarify the picture this was taken after the problem and that shock mount broke and fell off and dropped down onto the driveshaft. After this picture the collar was added a new shock mount and despite that the collar still loosens Because the stock link is too long. Tarret Will be ordered
And. Hopefully get it installed correctly
Mike
To clarify the picture this was taken after the problem and that shock mount broke and fell off and dropped down onto the driveshaft. After this picture the collar was added a new shock mount and despite that the collar still loosens Because the stock link is too long. Tarret Will be ordered
And. Hopefully get it installed correctly
Mike