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Old 01-13-2013 | 06:14 PM
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I ask bc I recall there was an issue with Hoosier r6 rotating on the rims quite a bit. Also there was a rumor that John at CCWs wasn't selling to Porsche guys anymore. Anyway strongly considering a second set of rims and I don't like the OZ Allegritas. Also don't want to spend $4-$5k on another set from the high end names.
Old 01-13-2013 | 06:38 PM
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Ramon,

I really like mine, and have had no problems with tire rotation that is different from my other wheels. I think they are the best bang for the buck.
Old 01-13-2013 | 06:49 PM
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I have a set from John on my Zcar. I "had" a set that I sold with my 996TT. The Hoosier slipping on CCWs isn't a new phenomenon and happens with all the T1 racers I know running them. So why John would not "sell" to Porsche guys is crazy.

All that said, the "other" question is this, why is it that hoosiers seem to be the ones that do it? Has anyone spoken with HOOSIER? I know the T1 guys don't really care, and just work with it.

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Old 01-13-2013 | 07:07 PM
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I was just think about ordering another set of Classics this past week and was surprised to see he's significanltly raised their pricing from $2,200 to $2,700. perset for 18". Still reasonable, but not when compared to the OZ's.....
Old 01-13-2013 | 07:58 PM
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Yea my LM20s came to me anodized black, in 18X11.5 and 18X10 for the Zcar and they ran me $3200. I am kinda stuck with the fitment for the Datsun, because it uses a Ford Mustang 5X4.5 pattern with really funky offsets... The porsche wheels cost about the same in their newer designs.

Those OZs will probably end up being my track wheel option for the GT3.
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Old 01-13-2013 | 09:06 PM
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forgestar wheels light strong inexpensive any width any offset. under 1500 for a set of 18's
Old 01-13-2013 | 09:47 PM
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Removing the paint and roughing up the metal where's the bead of the tire makes contact with the wheel should reduce if not eliminate tire movement on the rim.
Old 01-13-2013 | 10:22 PM
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In the Porsche PCA Suncoast club magazine which is online on there website there is a set of 996 GT3 fitment CCW 's for sale $1300.
I tried to buy a set of CCW's from John a year ago and he told me he's not selling Porsche wheels. Vette, Viper muscle cars no problem.
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I bought a pair of C-10 wheels from John as recently as last August/September. I hope he really hasn't stopped making these wheels. They are an ideal choice for the track.
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Originally Posted by Mikelly
I have a set from John on my Zcar. I "had" a set that I sold with my 996TT. The Hoosier slipping on CCWs isn't a new phenomenon and happens with all the T1 racers I know running them. So why John would not "sell" to Porsche guys is crazy.

All that said, the "other" question is this, why is it that hoosiers seem to be the ones that do it? Has anyone spoken with HOOSIER? I know the T1 guys don't really care, and just work with it.

Mike
It's not just a Hoosier thing. I have the same issue with my NTO1's on CCW classics. I don't think it's a CCW problem either. I think it's a horsepower/grip problem more than anything. Seems pretty common from what I've heard.
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ccw great
tire rotate
ignore it
keep driving
no prob
Old 01-14-2013 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
forgestar wheels light strong inexpensive any width any offset. under 1500 for a set of 18's
My personal experience with Forgestar is that they are trying too hard to make a cast wheel light weight and the end product is a wheel that is fragile and not up to the task.

Apples to Oranges but I have a set of Forgestar's for my wife's Mercedes and 3 of the 4 wheels have cracked on the inner barrels in MULTIPLE PLACES within 10k miles of street use.
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Originally Posted by AudiOn19s
My personal experience with Forgestar is that they are trying too hard to make a cast wheel light weight and the end product is a wheel that is fragile and not up to the task.

Apples to Oranges but I have a set of Forgestar's for my wife's Mercedes and 3 of the 4 wheels have cracked on the inner barrels in MULTIPLE PLACES within 10k miles of street use.
what size are they? i have a set and have a number of friends that have them also on track their cars on a regular basis with no issues
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
what size are they? i have a set and have a number of friends that have them also on track their cars on a regular basis with no issues
My understanding is that they have changed their load ratings from what was originally advertised and actually gone back and added some heft to the F14 model (usually what the track guys choose) in order to make them stronger, so they may be better now.

Mine are F10's model and they are on a 4300lb sedan. She did bend one of them which was a complete mistake on her part but ironically that bent (now fixed) wheel is the only one that hasn't cracked.

I've well documented the problem, well documented the lack of mileage on them and the lack of damage to the wheels other than the cracking and they are un-willing to stand behind their product and do anything to make it right.
Old 01-14-2013 | 10:53 AM
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All good responses. Much appreciated. Will call John at CCW this week to see if in fact he is still producing wheels for Porsches.



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