Difference of J-class vs stock
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Curious as to major differences. Mostly weight? Heard that the winner of the recent race at VIR ran a 2:03.8 on R6s. Sounds very impressive.
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I think the J class is a stock class, that is, not "prepared". Lots of changes can be made to the car except drivetrain, basic body, etc. Lots of J class racers have "enhanced" their cars with suspension, and other mods, yet the car remains classed as "stock". Weight limits are published, along with the so-called "free" mods (none of which are free) in the Club Racing Rules on the PCA website http://www.pca.org/Activities/ClubRa...singForms.aspx
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Ray, the "lettered" classes are stock AND prepared but depends on what mods the driver does. The car slots into a stock class and is given a list of things that are allowed to be done on the car. Then there is a small list of additional items you can take advantage of by moving up 1 class. Two "classes" of cars would slot into J.....Those that run J "stock" and those that run J "prepared". J prepared would be those in I that took advantage of both the stock class rules and the prepared rules.
Honestly, they really need to change the name of the classes. Calling them stock is a joke. Running gutted interiors, full cages, remote canister Moton's, Hoosier slicks, LWFW, beefier ARB's, monoball everything, , wider wheels and tires than stock, etc, etc, etc.
Honestly, they really need to change the name of the classes. Calling them stock is a joke. Running gutted interiors, full cages, remote canister Moton's, Hoosier slicks, LWFW, beefier ARB's, monoball everything, , wider wheels and tires than stock, etc, etc, etc.
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Ray, the "lettered" classes are stock AND prepared but depends on what mods the driver does. The car slots into a stock class and is given a list of things that are allowed to be done on the car. Then there is a small list of additional items you can take advantage of by moving up 1 class. Two "classes" of cars would slot into J.....Those that run J "stock" and those that run J "prepared". J prepared would be those in I that took advantage of both the stock class rules and the prepared rules.
Honestly, they really need to change the name of the classes. Calling them stock is a joke. Running gutted interiors, full cages, remote canister Moton's, Hoosier slicks, LWFW, beefier ARB's, monoball everything, , wider wheels and tires than stock, etc, etc, etc.
Honestly, they really need to change the name of the classes. Calling them stock is a joke. Running gutted interiors, full cages, remote canister Moton's, Hoosier slicks, LWFW, beefier ARB's, monoball everything, , wider wheels and tires than stock, etc, etc, etc.
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There is rarely anybody in J so I would have to say that it was an anomaly that there were 5 entrants in J for VIR. Especially with the overall attendance in the toilet. I sold my GT3 for that very reason and picked a car to run in G. At the time G was typically the second largest group in the stock classes behind the always well attended E class. "Racing" against 1 or 2 (or especially nobody else in class) isn't racing. Sure, you can mix it up with cars in other classes. But why? It's not for class.
For the VIR race.....Sprint 1 had 5 drivers with drivers 2-5 a lap or more down with fast lap of 205. Sprint 2 had 4 (2 of them DNF) with fast lap of 205. Enduro had 2 drivers with fast lap of 208. All qualifying was 205+ with only 1 driver breaking 205 (203.8). That can't be any fun winning by those margins. Some of those Specbox groups on the west coast (and central) have had 20-30+ entrants with many guys finishing with tenths of a second!
Everybody has their definition of racing. For me, I can't rationalize racing against those low numbers.
Don't get me wrong, I had a blast on track for the few races I ran and the rush was amazing. But, and this is a big but....when I actually thought (which I had 9 months to do while the spec boxster was being built) about what it was costing me to race versus what I was getting out of it, the answer became obvious (for me). Time to sell. Decided to go back to DE with my weekend car and can honestly say I am having way more fun with the wallet thanking me every single day.![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
If I go back racing, I will be VERY careful as to decide where to race and what class. I want large numbers with close racing.
For the VIR race.....Sprint 1 had 5 drivers with drivers 2-5 a lap or more down with fast lap of 205. Sprint 2 had 4 (2 of them DNF) with fast lap of 205. Enduro had 2 drivers with fast lap of 208. All qualifying was 205+ with only 1 driver breaking 205 (203.8). That can't be any fun winning by those margins. Some of those Specbox groups on the west coast (and central) have had 20-30+ entrants with many guys finishing with tenths of a second!
Everybody has their definition of racing. For me, I can't rationalize racing against those low numbers.
Don't get me wrong, I had a blast on track for the few races I ran and the rush was amazing. But, and this is a big but....when I actually thought (which I had 9 months to do while the spec boxster was being built) about what it was costing me to race versus what I was getting out of it, the answer became obvious (for me). Time to sell. Decided to go back to DE with my weekend car and can honestly say I am having way more fun with the wallet thanking me every single day.
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If I go back racing, I will be VERY careful as to decide where to race and what class. I want large numbers with close racing.