High speed braking dynamics
#16
About the rear instability I was having some issues as well and after checking and dismissing all alignment, LSD and aero issues I am now between the problem being PCCB specific regarding bias and pads or a rear tyres issue. Still investigating.
BTW are you using PCCBS or steel brakes and with what pads?
About the gt3 aero you can read more here https://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-...highlight=duct
John
BTW are you using PCCBS or steel brakes and with what pads?
About the gt3 aero you can read more here https://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-...highlight=duct
John
#19
I agree...alignment. If the toe is different side to side as little as 1/2mm you can feel it under braking. Most alignment shops are not accurate enough. The rear thrust angle has to be 0.00 period.
This also causes it to turn in differently left to right although it's tough to feel the difference sometimes. MANY of us have been through this; my alignment shop even bought new equipment when they figured out how inaccurate their old equipment was. These cars are ultra sensitive to rear toe...
This also causes it to turn in differently left to right although it's tough to feel the difference sometimes. MANY of us have been through this; my alignment shop even bought new equipment when they figured out how inaccurate their old equipment was. These cars are ultra sensitive to rear toe...
#22
Had the same issue at Road America this weekend. My car has stock suspension parts. Between runs I took my car to Eurosport who told me issue is related to front suspension compressing under heavy braking creating a light rear end causing it to dance. They checked my sway bar settings front was set to full firm position rear was moved to softest setting. After the 5 minute adjustment to the rear by one notch it made a huge improvement. Even though I no longer have my rear end dancing during heavy braking I am still considering Tarret toe links.
#23
I find it very hard to believe that a single point adjustment in the ARB resulting in significant changes. Especially, moving to a full soft setting in front. Brake bias and toe change are the two easiest ways you can address the braking dynamics of these cars. Your ARB handles lateral load.
#24
Yes, sway bars effect lateral load for cornering. We also did not feel that it would help but it did. The front was already set to the firmest setting we moved the rear one hole to the softest setting. Tire pressure remained the same running Pagid RS29's front & rear. Strange but it really did help and it did not cost a dime.
#25
Sounds like one of those situations where you attribute a change to an effect when there is no support for that. It's what I like to tell my stats students.....correlation does not equal causation.
I'm willing to bet that was purely coincidental.
I'm willing to bet that was purely coincidental.
#26
A statistician is skeptical about correlation and willing to bet in luck. I like!
Given that we know the standard deviation in GT3s and in order to increase the sample size by one unit I have to agree with Dell here. Theoretically even if you remove the sways completely and the road is straight and no load is carried left or right by turning, that removal wouldn’t change the brake characteristics of the car or the squat of the front.
Given that we know the standard deviation in GT3s and in order to increase the sample size by one unit I have to agree with Dell here. Theoretically even if you remove the sways completely and the road is straight and no load is carried left or right by turning, that removal wouldn’t change the brake characteristics of the car or the squat of the front.
#28
It very well could be the case if the car is lowered significantly (enough to stress the drop links and bind the ARB). But, I'd have to guess that there is more going on here that isn't known.