vanHunks

There's been a lot of discussion on the forum on this topic but the specs or part numbers of the parts other than the cables themselves (to adapt the cable ends to the standard GT3 gear-change) have not been recorded. My local OPC (Cape Town !) had no idea what I was talking about and the Motorsport department in Johannesburg are obviously unfamiliar with the conversion. It seems that the additional parts are not in the Porsche parts list but individual specialists such as Fearnsport in England have worked out the details themselves but are reluctant, for obvious reasons, to place the information in the public domain. I see Manthey is advertising the Cup cables for "all" 996s, which suggests they've cracked it as well - not a big surprise - but it's not clear if they sell the kit or insist on doing the job themselves at their premises. I've emailed a query and await their response. Does anyone have any experience with the Manthey "kit" (if it exists) or anyone else who produces a kit ? I had a look on both the Pelican and Suncoast websites but found nothing. Will try 'phoning them. I asked Gert Carnewal but his experience is that the demand is too low to be worth the effort.

911SLOW

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...-7-gt3-rs.html

Go to page 3 there is my post with the parts needed marked with an X.
Mystery solved.

John

EDIT :
There is no manthey kit and of course no Feansport secret it's all oem Porsche
Parts are not in the pet they are cup parts
Gert is right not enough people to worth a kit plus the "kit" apart from the cables costs so little money
Also note that many shops didnt even used the parts I checked they installed the cables by reusing oem street parts

mooty

i have cup cable AND cup shifter.
no adaptor needed.
i think by the time you get all the parts john listed, u might as well just get the shifter itself.

vanHunks

John, Thanks for the feedback. I didn't find your post because my searching was limited to the 996 GT3 forum. If and when I hear from Manthey and/or Fearnsport I'll post their responses.

Mooty, This occurred to me as well - I was thinking of changing to the 997 GT3 gear-change anyway and imagine (hah !) the Cup (996) gear-change will be a similar price. Fitting the parts could presumably be entrusted to an experienced Porsche mechanic as a standard piece of work, unlike the task of adapting the Cup cables to the standard gear-change, which is not known here and I'm hesitant to be the guinea-pig. If going with the Cup gear-change I daresay one would still have to buy most of the additional parts marked in John's parts diagram as they have their own part numbers so are not included in the gear-change unit itself - will confirm with my OPC.

Cheers, Dominic

911SLOW

997 gt3 shifter is shorter than 996 gt3 but has again plastic at the ends *better on the side. its cheaper than the 996 gt3 cup shifter which is not a short shifter but you can pull it with a car and it won't brake.

John your shop reused the oem parts to install the cup shifter.
The cup shifter doesn't come with the links.

mooty

^ must be then. my shop is very good at adapting or fabricating. they make it very easy for me thus sometimes i wonder why ppl ask the questions they ask on RL b/c i never had problems. little did i know that my shop just "fixed" the problems so i dont need to worry.

oh, regardless of what shifter/cable you use, make sure the tech has amble time to align and set it up. it's not plug and play. they spent quite a few hours to make sure every gear is easy to find and positive.

cfjan

Mooty,

What's the difference between the Cup shifter and the street shifter?

mooty

once you drive a cup shifter, you will either buy a new car or buy the shifter. what you are using is...... really ****ty. that's put it that way. it's very very very different than the regular short shift kit. hard to describe. but $1000 for parts maybe $3-400 to install. it' s not easy. try to fish the cable out from cabin to underside of car near transaxle.

jlasuncion

How I wish I can try one with the cup shifter before I take the plunge, I might just convince my friend (with more budget) with a gt3 to get it before I do I can't fault the stock shifter right now, it's feels so good and combined with the meaty clutch seems perfectly balanced so when you guys say the stock setup is crap I'm so intrigued how good the cup setup will be

cfjan

I'm sure it is better, but I am curious what makes it better. Not the cable, but the shifter itself.. ? Is it like the pivots are riding on roller bearings? Etc.

Dudley

This post is right on. Pricing was my experience as well.

AllanJ

My mechanic did this mod to a 996 turbo and told me to hop in the car and check it out. BASTARD!!! He knew what he was doing.... Now it's on my "to-do" list.

mooty

its not smooth buttery like S2000, but it's very positive.

the cable is not flexible like oem and it's about 50% fatter. i dont know what make it better, i did the shifter and cable at the same time. but the feel is night and day. now my RS shifts horribly compared to the 6.

mooty

i didn't know it was $1000 when i ordered it. when i found out the price, i regretted but i can't cancel the order. when it was installed, i would have paid for it even at $2k

cfjan

If it can get close to the S2000 shifter, I'd be glad to pay $1000 for it.. !!

What made you do the Cup shifter, instead of the 997GT3 shifter? People seem to have positive feedback on the 997GT3 shifter as well, with a slightly reduction in throw.. (15% or so)