Egas to throttle cable conversion?
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Egas to throttle cable conversion?
I'm probably talking thru my a$$ but I'm not a fan of egas(throttle response is lazy). Just wondering is it possible to convert to cable actuated? I talked to my friend mechanic and he'll look into it but just want to hear from others. Mike
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Huh, lazy throttle response? Geez, I'm so close to getting a 6gt3 and this is what I hear
Well, I have no experience with gt3s, but I've seen this done on other cars and it went something like this...
You're going to need new engine management (biggest hassle) with wiring for ignition etc., the cable, throttle-body, and maybe a pedal. My guess is that there are probably a lot of things that run though the stock ECU that you won't want to lose (e.g. dash warning lights). So you can't completely ditch your stock ECU unless you're going all-out. Doing this on my Audi S4 runs about $600 in parts which isn't bad, but then you need the engine management. That would have run me an extra $1500 + tuning, and then good luck with emissions! I have only seen this mod being done for significant engine changes.
Well, I have no experience with gt3s, but I've seen this done on other cars and it went something like this...
You're going to need new engine management (biggest hassle) with wiring for ignition etc., the cable, throttle-body, and maybe a pedal. My guess is that there are probably a lot of things that run though the stock ECU that you won't want to lose (e.g. dash warning lights). So you can't completely ditch your stock ECU unless you're going all-out. Doing this on my Audi S4 runs about $600 in parts which isn't bad, but then you need the engine management. That would have run me an extra $1500 + tuning, and then good luck with emissions! I have only seen this mod being done for significant engine changes.
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a good e gas is much much better than throttle cable
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My 99 996 has throttle cable- never had a problem with it. Initial application of gt3 gas pedal vs 99 996- GT3 does have a delay. MIke
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Sounds like you have a fixable problem with the e-gas. I've got an '04 GT3 (egas) and an '02 Cup (cable), thousands of laps in both and the egas has never entered my consciousness (except when I'm left foot braking ...). Get the dealer to check out the circuit for you, it really should be the same as a cable.
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I know what you mean about egas in that I can see it when blipping out of gear and stationary, but when driving and there is load on the engine I don't think it makes any odds?
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The first egas system circa 2000-2001 were a bit intrusive for heel and toe but I got used to it. The current ones are fine and throttle response is as good as a cable.
Egas is required for PSM and all its systems. That means it is wired into the car seventeen different ways.
The only way to left foot brake on an egas car is:
Lift off gas
apply brake
apply gas after you have applied the brakes
This pretty much defeats the purpose of left foot braking IMO.
There is a lag or about 1 second, i.e. if you left foot brake with your foot on the gas, after about 1 second the engine power is reduced to idle.
The reason for this is that if you apply the brake while throttle is applied, the brain figures you have a runaway engine (see Toyota) and kills the power. It is a safety feature.
I suggest you learn to live with it If your throttle response is slo-mo, you probably have something wrong as even on the track, egas does not hamper driving, except for braking while on the gas to maintain boost.
Since the Toyota affair, I doubt anyone would provide a flash load that disables the safety feature designed to prevent "unintended acceleration".
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Egas is required for PSM and all its systems. That means it is wired into the car seventeen different ways.
The only way to left foot brake on an egas car is:
Lift off gas
apply brake
apply gas after you have applied the brakes
This pretty much defeats the purpose of left foot braking IMO.
There is a lag or about 1 second, i.e. if you left foot brake with your foot on the gas, after about 1 second the engine power is reduced to idle.
The reason for this is that if you apply the brake while throttle is applied, the brain figures you have a runaway engine (see Toyota) and kills the power. It is a safety feature.
I suggest you learn to live with it If your throttle response is slo-mo, you probably have something wrong as even on the track, egas does not hamper driving, except for braking while on the gas to maintain boost.
Since the Toyota affair, I doubt anyone would provide a flash load that disables the safety feature designed to prevent "unintended acceleration".
Best,
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Hey Mike: One easy thing to do is to try cleaning your throttle body in addition to a new air filter. The gunk that can develop on the lip of the butterfly valve can cause slugishness. See if that improves your response.
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I don't know of any conversions in 996-3s... my egas is fine in the 3, no delay. It's a pretty linear response albeit on a different slope compared to my TT in sport mode.
The TT's throttle response slope is steeper... so, when I jump back in the 3, it feels a linear, but a bit sluggish... no 'delay', though.
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