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Old 06-14-2009 | 12:43 PM
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I know people that have paid 10 i can see why, maybe the guards diff 2500 basic model and labor for that. It's about a grand per gear so 3k and 3k labor minimum plus the diff and associated diff labor and fluids. R&P is 2600 and labor. if done in house shipping and R&R of the tranny can be 800+



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12k? Where are y'all getting your prices from? While I do not have my bill in front of me, I can tell you that the re-gear of my box (3rd-6th) with cup gears and the cup clutch packs for the LSD was nowhere close to 12K!

Sorry Vic, no getting dragged into subjective argument. All I did is state the facts and why regearing is the proper way to go. As I said (and John as well) the proper order would be.......

Best---> R&P and gearing
Better--> gearing
Good --> R&P
Old 06-14-2009 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LVDell
12k? Where are y'all getting your prices from? While I do not have my bill in front of me, I can tell you that the re-gear of my box (3rd-6th) with cup gears and the cup clutch packs for the LSD was nowhere close to 12K!

Sorry Vic, no getting dragged into subjective argument. All I did is state the facts and why regearing is the proper way to go. As I said (and John as well) the proper order would be.......

Best---> R&P and gearing
Better--> gearing
Good --> R&P
Rothsport off the cuff pricing for parts and labor - if not $12K it is certainly 5 figures...or damn close

I agree with your best, better, good...

For DE days... I think the "good" is great... JMHO
Old 06-14-2009 | 02:54 PM
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What's the annual inspection thing?
Old 06-14-2009 | 08:46 PM
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if you do the hears they must be inspected for wear and damage annually, motorsport straight cut gears do not have rounded edges like street gears and the edges can get eaten up.
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Thanks Victor.
Old 06-14-2009 | 08:51 PM
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Vic....actually the gearbox does NOT need to be inspected annually. However, you can (as I do several times a year) drain the gear oil and that will tell you just what you need to know.

AKAIK....the gears are not straight cut. Maybe the sequential box. However, I don't know enough about the gears sets themselves to speak as an authority. I rely on my race shop and Greg's credentials are second to none and at no time was an annual inspection reported.
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huh, ok. That's what Austin told me. Maybe he had his TRG hat on still
Old 06-14-2009 | 10:54 PM
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Duh you would know better then I would as you had it done

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Old 06-14-2009 | 11:02 PM
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So if u regear and have a r/p done what would u change as far as gear sets? Regards. Mike
Old 06-15-2009 | 01:13 AM
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^ i belive first is stuck on the shaft.
so regear 2nd - 5th
move 5th to 6th.
what gear depends on what track u are on. stop messing around mike, just drive the POS you got.
Old 06-15-2009 | 08:11 AM
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1st and 2nd are on the shaft so you regear 3rd-6th. You can move 5th to so technically all you are replacing is 3 gears to get 4 new gears.

Unless you are racing and have unlimited budgets then you pick a gearset that is what you are looking for and you stick with it. You need to have somebody that knows what they are doing and has data on the tracks you are trying to build the box for. Greg (my race shop owner) and Copans spent a considerable amount of time discussing what gears to to use for each (3rd-6th) to maximize the build for my needs.
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^ ah, 2nd is stuck too. good less money to burn.
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I bought my GT3 with a regeared transmission that blew up third gear at my first event. I sent the transmission to Copans and we agreed to use the 4.0 ring and pinion and replaced the 1st and 2nd gear shaft with the cup car shaft, which addresses the 1st gear problem already discussed. The end effect was very nicely spaced gears throughout the range. I love this combination.

Brian Copans told me the 4.0 ring and pinion has a limited life compared to stock. As I recall, he thought it should be inspected and/or replaced at 100 hours of track use.
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Originally Posted by Camber
Brian Copans told me the 4.0 ring and pinion has a limited life compared to stock. As I recall, he thought it should be inspected and/or replaced at 100 hours of track use.
Seems to jive with what I heard from many moons ago. 4:1 R&P is 32:8 teeth, right? Then you have the same ones meshing all the time. My foggy memory is telling me I heard this wasn't optimal. Can't remember where or if it even applies here.

I blame old age.

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Old 06-15-2009 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Camber
I bought my GT3 with a regeared transmission that blew up third gear at my first event. I sent the transmission to Copans and we agreed to use the 4.0 ring and pinion and replaced the 1st and 2nd gear shaft with the cup car shaft, which addresses the 1st gear problem already discussed. The end effect was very nicely spaced gears throughout the range. I love this combination.

Brian Copans told me the 4.0 ring and pinion has a limited life compared to stock. As I recall, he thought it should be inspected and/or replaced at 100 hours of track use.
copans is straight up and spent a lot of time explaining things to me. it's just hard to get a hold of him as he travels with the pro teams to big events all the time.

yes 4.0 has limited and shorter life than stock. no free lunch there. if i were to do it again, i would stay stock and just get a cup car. trust me, if you track that much, it will ultimately cheaper just to get the cup and not mess up the street GT3. i know b/c i never listen to my logic side and keep f'k up and dump money in the toilet.
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