FAQ: MPSC pressures
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996 GT3 with 235/40-18 front and 295/30-18 rear MPSCs.
Found two PDFs on the MPSC (too large to post here). Both say the sweet spot for temperatures is 160-220°F.
One says for road racing cold pressures should be 25F/28R and hot pressures should be 32F/36R. That seems like what I hear a lot, if the hot 36R is a bit high.
The other PDF says the same in the general guidelines, but for Porsche 996 wearing 225/40-18 in the front and 285/30-18 in the rear, the suggestion for hot pressurs is 32-34F and 37-40R. That seems high. It also says there is a big effect from front tire pressure changes: steering gain decreases 20=25% between 26-38 psi.
What do you all make of that? What cold/hot pressures do get on your MPSCs?
Found two PDFs on the MPSC (too large to post here). Both say the sweet spot for temperatures is 160-220°F.
One says for road racing cold pressures should be 25F/28R and hot pressures should be 32F/36R. That seems like what I hear a lot, if the hot 36R is a bit high.
The other PDF says the same in the general guidelines, but for Porsche 996 wearing 225/40-18 in the front and 285/30-18 in the rear, the suggestion for hot pressurs is 32-34F and 37-40R. That seems high. It also says there is a big effect from front tire pressure changes: steering gain decreases 20=25% between 26-38 psi.
What do you all make of that? What cold/hot pressures do get on your MPSCs?
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Chris, go to the Michelin web page and look up what they suggest. That is a great starting point, but those Hot pressures do sound close.
I like to stay about 38R hot, otherwise they get slippery.
I like to stay about 38R hot, otherwise they get slippery.
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I usually start out at 31 rear and 29 front for the first session. Usually the pressures will go to 37/38 rear and 33/34 front. I then drop to 32 rear and 30 front, I keep adjusting until I get to 35/36 rear and 32 front. The 35/36 numbers varies according to track conditions that day. Sometimes 35 works better than 36. I have run tires to the cords this way without problems.
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This is what worked for me last year. I've changed my alignment since then, reducing the difference between the F/R camber from 1 degree to .25 degrees. (was F -3, R -2 now F -2.7 R- 2.4) I have 800/1000 lb springs. Mid Ohio, Ambient temp 60 degrees, partly cloudy. Hot tire temps around 170-180 degrees. See how the rear sliding heated the rears more than the fronts? I expect to fine tune again this year or possibly work more on the alignment.
Anyway, you are in my ballpark:
Cold F 27 R 25
Hot F 33 R 35
Hope this is useful.
Anyway, you are in my ballpark:
Cold F 27 R 25
Hot F 33 R 35
Hope this is useful.
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I start at 26 cold then adjust to 31-32 hot all around. Nething after 34 feels slippery to me. My pressures mite be not your comfort range. U have to experiment what feels best for u. I don't think there's a universal hot pressure for everyone. Mike
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Seems like it is not only "really common" to play with these HOT temps, but it is a matter of feel as well.
But there is a pretty common range that is within a few lbs. Start on the low side and work up from there, that might help.
We are getting some good weather here in the NW and tomorrow is a great track day for us to play with these pressures and other settings!
But there is a pretty common range that is within a few lbs. Start on the low side and work up from there, that might help.
We are getting some good weather here in the NW and tomorrow is a great track day for us to play with these pressures and other settings!
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Chris, about a dozen of us with 996GT3s and Cups found that 32F 34R Hot for the OEM sizes was the sweet spot. Over 35 lbs and grip falls off quite a bit.
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I wonder how accurate our gauges are? Mine must be 10 yrs old, and is a dial type. Also, the length of the track and the cool down lap probably could account for a 1 lb variance, to say nothing of the track temp ( sunny vs cloudy, am vs pm, etc)
Having said that, I'm going to try 1 lb less to see what it feels like.
Thanks for starting the thread. I needed something to get me through the next 2 weeks until I can get to my first event of the season.
Having said that, I'm going to try 1 lb less to see what it feels like.
Thanks for starting the thread. I needed something to get me through the next 2 weeks until I can get to my first event of the season.
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Posted in the old threads for a stock 2004-2005 996 GT3 with stock tire sizes.
Michelin Pilot Sport Cup on track:
front 32 psi hot, rear 35-36 psi hot - up to - front 38 psi hot, rear 40 psi hot
Michelin Pilot Sport 2 on track:
front at 36 psi hot, rear at 38 psi hot - or - front 38 psi hot, rear 40 psi hot
Michelin Pilot Sport Cup on track:
front 32 psi hot, rear 35-36 psi hot - up to - front 38 psi hot, rear 40 psi hot
Michelin Pilot Sport 2 on track:
front at 36 psi hot, rear at 38 psi hot - or - front 38 psi hot, rear 40 psi hot
Last edited by enthusiast; 04-07-2009 at 12:10 AM. Reason: My mistake, found my notes with lower pressures.
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Nah, we have seen air pressures change due to North Korea and Kim Jung Ill introducing chemicals into our eco system.
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We must now compinsate for such actions.
Good times!
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My .02 worth I ran 32/35 hot. The problem is the starting pressures as they are horrible when under-inflated and cold and horrible when over-inflated and hot. If I have the chance I start them in the morning a few pounds low then bleed off pressure as they get warm to get to the 32/35.