Does anyone here use PCCB on track regularly?
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damn skippy. P50 are amazing but I was getting ansty and put on my second set of green pads last week. They worked great at infineon/sears point this weekend! still have the old ones and they've got a lot of material left.
to the OP- make sure you really take the time to bed in all your new pads on the car- emergency stops or tracking with unbedded "cold" brakes do more damage to the PCCB than anything else
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I tried out some green pads this weekend as well, they are a true track pad with incredible bite
The downside is that (per TRG) they are a lot harder on the rotors
Oh well, we'll see how the rotors hold up, 5 track days now and they still seem fine
The downside is that (per TRG) they are a lot harder on the rotors
Oh well, we'll see how the rotors hold up, 5 track days now and they still seem fine
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i was told the p50 green bad is better in that it had bitter bite, less fade, AND easier on rotors?
what exactly is the fact??
i am new to PCCB.
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1) This pads are rougher on the rotors.
2) These pads generate less heat and are therefore easier on rotors.
Inquiring minds want to know.
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The pads are clearly made of a "harder" material that needs more heat in them to function
- under extreme track conditions stopping distances are shorter (but i'm not sure if it is because of more friction or "less" fade at higher temps
- the pads last longer for two reasons (they are thicker 13mm versus 10mm for stock) and they just plain last longer at higher track temps
- at cold temps, the stock pads will stop the car in much shorter distances
- on lap 2 they seem to be the same
- on lap 5 the P50 pads make for shorter stopping distances
If I had to guess, "at track temps" the friction co-efficient of the P50 is higher than the stock pads - and at street temps the friction co-efficient is higher with OE pads - and this is the big guess, if I had to guess, the P50 pads at high temps may have a very slightly higher friction co-efficient than the OE pads at street temps (but this is a guess) - I'm sure Pagid will have the specs
I have not noticed an "increased" rate of rotor wear from P50 pads but I think that this is an impossibe task to actually know as my guess is that ceramic rotors are good for somewhere between 30 and 180 trackdays given so many different variables
So far I see no reason not to use the P50 pads for track days - they work just as good if not a bit better and they last longer and do not cause "noticably" more wear
- under extreme track conditions stopping distances are shorter (but i'm not sure if it is because of more friction or "less" fade at higher temps
- the pads last longer for two reasons (they are thicker 13mm versus 10mm for stock) and they just plain last longer at higher track temps
- at cold temps, the stock pads will stop the car in much shorter distances
- on lap 2 they seem to be the same
- on lap 5 the P50 pads make for shorter stopping distances
If I had to guess, "at track temps" the friction co-efficient of the P50 is higher than the stock pads - and at street temps the friction co-efficient is higher with OE pads - and this is the big guess, if I had to guess, the P50 pads at high temps may have a very slightly higher friction co-efficient than the OE pads at street temps (but this is a guess) - I'm sure Pagid will have the specs
I have not noticed an "increased" rate of rotor wear from P50 pads but I think that this is an impossibe task to actually know as my guess is that ceramic rotors are good for somewhere between 30 and 180 trackdays given so many different variables
So far I see no reason not to use the P50 pads for track days - they work just as good if not a bit better and they last longer and do not cause "noticably" more wear
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The pads are clearly made of a "harder" material that needs more heat in them to function
- under extreme track conditions stopping distances are shorter (but i'm not sure if it is because of more friction or "less" fade at higher temps
- the pads last longer for two reasons (they are thicker 13mm versus 10mm for stock) and they just plain last longer at higher track temps
- at cold temps, the stock pads will stop the car in much shorter distances
- on lap 2 they seem to be the same
- on lap 5 the P50 pads make for shorter stopping distances
If I had to guess, "at track temps" the friction co-efficient of the P50 is higher than the stock pads - and at street temps the friction co-efficient is higher with OE pads - and this is the big guess, if I had to guess, the P50 pads at high temps may have a very slightly higher friction co-efficient than the OE pads at street temps (but this is a guess) - I'm sure Pagid will have the specs
I have not noticed an "increased" rate of rotor wear from P50 pads but I think that this is an impossibe task to actually know as my guess is that ceramic rotors are good for somewhere between 30 and 180 trackdays given so many different variables
So far I see no reason not to use the P50 pads for track days - they work just as good if not a bit better and they last longer and do not cause "noticably" more wear
- under extreme track conditions stopping distances are shorter (but i'm not sure if it is because of more friction or "less" fade at higher temps
- the pads last longer for two reasons (they are thicker 13mm versus 10mm for stock) and they just plain last longer at higher track temps
- at cold temps, the stock pads will stop the car in much shorter distances
- on lap 2 they seem to be the same
- on lap 5 the P50 pads make for shorter stopping distances
If I had to guess, "at track temps" the friction co-efficient of the P50 is higher than the stock pads - and at street temps the friction co-efficient is higher with OE pads - and this is the big guess, if I had to guess, the P50 pads at high temps may have a very slightly higher friction co-efficient than the OE pads at street temps (but this is a guess) - I'm sure Pagid will have the specs
I have not noticed an "increased" rate of rotor wear from P50 pads but I think that this is an impossibe task to actually know as my guess is that ceramic rotors are good for somewhere between 30 and 180 trackdays given so many different variables
So far I see no reason not to use the P50 pads for track days - they work just as good if not a bit better and they last longer and do not cause "noticably" more wear
great first hand data,
thanx.