Just to be clear. I hope this motor turns out to be at least as good if not better than the current GT1 based unit in every way.

I genuinely hope Porsche can pull it off.

Like I said only time will tell.

 

Its like a quarter of the aircooled-watercooled sentement when that time came around...

 

Huh?

 

What I hear is that most, and I include myself in this group, don't care how the oiling is done...as long as it is done the same way in their 911 street car as it is in the racing 911.

If the new "integrated dry sump" engine is to be in the street GT2/3 and Turbo, it should be in the 911 Cup and 911 RSR as well; if the engine doesn't make it to the track, it doesn't make it worthy for these street cars either IMHO.

If Porsche is talking the racing talk, they have to do the racing walk.

 

+1

Race on sunday sell on Monday.

 

Just watch.
You got to have some confidence in engineering.
Why would Porsche go backward?

 

+1.

Performance and durability issues may or may not surface with a wet sump engine. There are probably engineering solutions to make the new system work.

However, to Porsche 911 enthusiasts, the dry sump engine has been a hallmark of the car. In my opinion, special versions of the 911 with dry sump engines will become more and more collectible as time goes on.

 

The upside of course is that not only should this new lump have more power + efficiency, it should also have more torque with 3.8l.

Slightly different take on same news piece in autocar:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...ncepts/234258/

On the plus side, they know they need some clear air between the GT3s and the Carrera S, so I'm fairly confident they won't be dumb enough to cut too many corners.

 

I'm sure the new engine will be faster / stronger. (Why wouldn't it be?) I'm just happy to have a car that's one of the "last of <fill in the blank>". Just as I would have liked to have had a 993 when the switch happened.

 

So was being air-cooled. Seems many (including both you and I) got over that "hallmark".

 

Based on their latest offerings......not a chance.

The M64/GT1 lump, over its life and almost countless variations, was pretty much bulletproof. I doubt it will ever be equaled, let alone surpassed.

 

Thinking about it some more, those of us who have expressed faith that Porsche can pull off racing a flat engine without an external oil tank (true dry sump) are ignoring the fact that there is no dedicated racing engine currently in use for F1, ALMS, etc. that does not have an external tank for the oil, and since these are all "V" configurations, none of these engines have the oil drainage problem that Porsche's flat engine presents.

Maybe a miracle has happened at Porsche?

 

Good point Cupcar. My guess is that the new engine will work just fine; for street cars. Porsche (or somebody) will probably offer a dry sump system for pure racing which would allow for a shallower oil pan (lower CG?) and solve the inherent oiling issue with the flat six. Their engine test rig is impressive but tough to duplicate the effect on the oil that a long 1.5+G sweeper would have.

 

The 996/997 GT3 motor was developed from GT1.
Porsche does not have a car of such prestige for more than 10 years.
Therefore, what do you expect to get in the MKIIs?

 

I guess that's it for my chances of ever owning my dream, a 996 GT3. I'm guessing this move will halt, if not reverse, the depreciation on the late dry sump models.

Oh well. Maybe a nice local board member (Sherwood Park ) will take me for a ride in his one day. I'm willing to offer up in trade a ride in my 924 or 951 so he can see how the slower half lives.