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Old 05-05-2007, 02:57 AM
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Old 05-05-2007, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by cchan
Hmmm, that suggests the front NT01 tire is still 6 pounds heavier than the MPSC, which would make it ~28# vs 22... Tire experts, is that difference possible? Or Dell, are your wheels really, really, really dirty???
Not dirty at all. They are painted, but I can't imagine the paint weighing more than a few ounces. Not sure how much the rubber weighs, but based on the following specs would it seem reasonable?

FRONT
Nitto 245/40 (no # published):
ID-->25.55 Width-->9.72 Rev/Mile-->813
MPSC 235/40 22#:
ID-->25.40 Width-->9.50 Rev/Mile-->819
PS2 235/40 24#:
ID-->25.40 Width-->9.50 Rev/Mile-->819

REAR
Nitto 315/30 (no # published):
ID-->25.35 Width-->12.60 Rev/Mile-->819
MPSC 295/30 25#:
ID-->25.20 Width-->12.10 Rev/Mile-->833
PS2 295/30 26#:
ID-->25.00 Width-->11.90 Rev/Mile-->832


LATER THIS MORNING I AM GOING TO WIEGH MY WHEELS WITH PS2's TO GET A BETTER # DELTA OF OEM WITH NITTO V. OEM WITH PS2............

I'LL POST BACK SHORTLY.

.....I'm back.

Here's what I get for the OEM wheels with PS2's
Front 47.0# (-4# than NT-01)
Rear 53# (-4.5# than NT-01)

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Old 05-05-2007, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LVDell
Here's what I get for the OEM wheels with PS2's
Front 47.0# (-4# than NT-01)
Rear 53# (-4.5# than NT-01)
Well at least we're within 1 lb. so this should be a good data point for OEM on PS2.

OEM wheels with PS2 tires:
Front 46 lbs. each.
Rear 52 lbs. each.

BBS wheels with MPSC tires:
Front 38 lbs. each.
Rear 42 lbs. each.

Dang those Nittos are heavy!
Old 05-05-2007, 08:39 PM
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Well, the 4# in the rear I can understand b/c of the variance in size (295 v 315) but the fronts are just a variance of 10mm and still have 4# to explain. Sure would be nice if Nitto would publish the weights. I didn't think to wiegh them BEFORE they went on the wheels.

My scale reads in .5# increments so the 1# could have very easily been my weight-(my weight plus the wheel in my arms).

Oh well. The Nitto's do have some weight on them but damn their nice on the track. I just need to get some lighter track wheels. Only problem is I just bought the 2nd set of OEM wheels and had them painted black. I'm already into those wheels for some $$$. Maybe my wife will approve a set of wheels instead of decorating the room for the baby due in November
Old 05-05-2007, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LVDell
I just need to get some lighter track wheels. Only problem is I just bought the 2nd set of OEM wheels and had them painted black. I'm already into those wheels for some $$$. Maybe my wife will approve a set of wheels instead of decorating the room for the baby due in November
Sorry!
Old 05-06-2007, 08:37 AM
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hehehe.....Chris, it's not your fault. I'll just have to figure out what I want to get and then see if there is a market for black OEM wheels. I'll have to wait at least until I use up these Nitto's before I make any decisions since I only have 1 weekend on them.
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Jon, your BBS weigh 38 and 42 with Cup tires? Wow. If you subtract out the Cup tire weights of 22f/25/r your wheels weigh 16f/17r. The Volk's I just ordered are 18/20 and those are light. Which BBS did you get? Magnesium? What cost? I'm just curious, seeing my Volk's are "in the mail".
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Originally Posted by CT03911
Jon, your BBS weigh 38 and 42 with Cup tires? Wow. If you subtract out the Cup tire weights of 22f/25/r your wheels weigh 16f/17r. The Volk's I just ordered are 18/20 and those are light. Which BBS did you get? Magnesium? What cost? I'm just curious, seeing my Volk's are "in the mail".
They are the magnesium one piece. Someone told me they got a quote from BBS for $8k + shipping for new ones. I haven't confirmed that price. I got mine used for less than half that.

They have some cosmetic scuffs but are straight and true otherwise. Since they are track wheels only, I decided I could live with the marks for that price and weight savings.
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Jon, I have 3 sets of BBS Mags, they were aboyt $5000 per set, but they are very light and very strong. I have run over a few curbs on the track and only managed to bend a few rim halfs which were fixed for a few hundred a piece. Before the BBS, I ran Enkei RC-5's which are just like the Volks and I found that they bend easy and since they are once piece, not repairable. I moved to the BBS after a slide into the gravel at summit point bend all 4 in one shot. Stick with a good set of 3 pcs wheels for the track. The extra cost up front is worth the return in the long run.
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Originally Posted by LVDell
I'll just have to figure out what I want to get and then see if there is a market for black OEM wheels. I'll have to wait at least until I use up these Nitto's before I make any decisions since I only have 1 weekend on them.
Dell, who knows, I'm figuring out if I want to finally move up to Nittos/Cups from the PS2s, and whether or not I should get a second set of wheels... so maybe by then I'll be in the market...
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Originally Posted by cchan
Dell, who knows, I'm figuring out if I want to finally move up to Nittos/Cups from the PS2s, and whether or not I should get a second set of wheels... so maybe by then I'll be in the market...

Do it!

This is a no-brainer.
Old 05-08-2007, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Holger B
Do it!

This is a no-brainer.
Holger!!!!!! There you go again helping me part ways with my $$$

**that's what you're doing right? convincing the sale of mine to another of our GT3 brothers so I can turn around and spend twice that on a set of uber wheels **
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Originally Posted by Ed Newman
Jon, I have 3 sets of BBS Mags, they were aboyt $5000 per set, but they are very light and very strong. I have run over a few curbs on the track and only managed to bend a few rim halfs which were fixed for a few hundred a piece. Before the BBS, I ran Enkei RC-5's which are just like the Volks and I found that they bend easy and since they are once piece, not repairable. I moved to the BBS after a slide into the gravel at summit point bend all 4 in one shot. Stick with a good set of 3 pcs wheels for the track. The extra cost up front is worth the return in the long run.
how are cast enkeis like forged volks? i have never heard of people bending te37s short of really hard hit (ie the suspension is bent too). RC5 are real light for a cast wheel (hollow spoke) so i suspect there is not a lot of "meat" to them
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Originally Posted by LVDell
Holger!!!!!! There you go again helping me part ways with my $$$

**that's what you're doing right? convincing the sale of mine to another of our GT3 brothers so I can turn around and spend twice that on a set of uber wheels **

Just tellin' it like it is.
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I am sure I could be persuaded if I got the right offer. Don't need to make money on the deal but I certainly don't want to lose any. Any takers?

**DAMN YOU HOLGER **


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