So I am finally moving to my first step up from stock. I am getting the Toe Arms installed, the car aligned and corner balanced and throwing on R-Comps next month before my spring DE season gets underway. Is there anything else rec'd while they are in there doing this work?

No, I am not rebuilding the suspension and doing the complete suspension mods like Rad or Chris. While they have setups they are the envy of all , I just can't go down that road at the current time.

I just want a suspension that is compliant, keeps me off the armco, and doesn't require an alignment after every damn event

Thanks!

Cheers,

 

Thanks to Jerseybean and Jon Groom, though not as extensively transformed as Rad's, I do have a great car and a great foundation upon which to work from.

Have I told you thanks enough 'bean?

I can't wait to watch the progression Dell, especially if you get the work done at Synergy.

 

I haven't called Synergy yet since I am sure there are swamped right now. Figured it would be best to call after the Daytona24 and try to get in sometime in February.....hopefully they can get me in. If not, I have a backup shop to call but a bit more out of the way.

 

This is certainly getting addictive isn't it Dell? I don't want to swap out a whole suspension, only something that will keep the alignment settings in place and not chew up the tires. That's all!!! Simple, but there are so many differing opinions on what to do.

I thought you weren't going to go to R Comps until you learned the car on street tires -- which I believe you estimated to be 1-3 years? The off season makes us all jumpy and want to do something with these cars instead of just looking at them in the garage It's tough...

 

You ain't kidding. I have felt like a crack addict going through withdrawal this winter

After my session at VIR in early December, I realized that going to R-Comps was now right for me. I have given this ALOT of thought and feel I am more than ready. I guess I was just trying to be as methodical as I was in my 996CAB that I tracked for 3 years.

True, I can learn more car control with street tires and toss them around but I am not sure just how far I want to "toss".

Damn, I just wish I was already at the track so I wasn't doing all this flip-flopping. Maybe I should just go with PS2's or the such. ARGH!!!!

 

No, the car doesn't seem to lose the camber settings as bad as the rear toe settings. The front toe goes away easily, but not as bad as the rear.

Jon Groom was using the Rear toe links at the front axle on the Cup cars, to keep the front toe settings in place. The front toe setting differences are not critical to drive the car, they produce faster or slower lap times, but they don't make you hit the wall or run out pavement.

 

would the cup tie rods help with the front toe?

 

IIRC, they are already up front. (or something similar)

 

i would stick with stock suspension for a bit ... the cars once propely set up have a lot to offer .. deffinately go with r compounds... just watch southbend they like to unload .. really pay attention to sway bar settings ... one of the biggest setups for a smooth track like VIR...

 

Matt, I see you are in for the morning as well

I plan to drop the car off with Synergy when they get back from Daytona24 and have the car setup properly for the track as well as a proper track focused alignment and corner balance. European did a good job with the "basic" alignment but it is very clear they are NOT a race shop.

 

no they are not a race shop, Jimmy knows his stuff and is really good . synergy is really good they have my cup car up there now. aim pista ,alignment , sreens on grill ..all the fun stuff.

talk to me about camber on it as well ... fine balance on those cars

 

So you agree then, European for my CAB and Synergy for my 3?

 

not totally... Jimmy can do quite a bit on on the 3, dont write him off... he did clutch and lwfw on mine and quite a few other things .. he will get it done quickly and much less expensive and he is in town.

i will call you

 

cool. talk to you soon.

 

I have a friend pulling triple adjustable Motons and some other bits off his 996 Cup to convert it back to GTC3 spec. He will also have some suspension bits in addition to the Motons. They are all in excellent shape, car hauled A$$ at RA this year when I drove it. Cant beat the Motons for high speed damping and they are great for running on the street since You can run a much higher spring rate yet control the rebound, makes a huge difference. Not sure on pricing but am sure they would be half of what new would be at the worst. These are not the club sport these are the high $ with the much larger strut shafts. And as You guys know there is nothing to wear out inside the moton due to its design. He will also be selling a set of trick 5 lug wheels off the same car. PM me and I will give you his contact info so You can ring him directly.