LIGHT Wheels for GT3
09-27-2006, 01:16 PM
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I thought I read on another thread that htey were about $8500. Either way.....they aint cheap.
09-27-2006, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by vegasgolf98
Fikse's dont' fit a GT3 properly if you are going to track it. You'll need spacers. If you are not tracking it, no problem.
Fikses can be made to spec... they should fit the GT3 just fine without spacers.
09-27-2006, 07:14 PM
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The CCW 1-piece wheels come only in 19", which is not the best for race tires. They are really designed to be a street wheel and not a race wheel. The CCW classic 3-piece is their race wheel. I have a set of CCW classic 3-piece race wheels in 18x9.0" front and 18x11.0". The race wheels differ from the street wheels in cadmium plated instead of chrome bolts and lighter wheel centers with no provisions for center caps. The fronts weigh 18 lbs each and the rears weigh 20 lbs each. They start at $2000 for 17" or 18" wheels in any width or offset for a set of 4 plus options and shipping, so they are half the price of all the other 3-piece wheels.
Pretty much a 3-piece wheel is a 3-piece wheel when it comes to racing. Fikse, Forgeline, HRE, CCW and Iforged all buy the out rim halves from the same company. Each company forges their own wheel centers. From their the differences are the finishes, types of bolts and how each one seals the wheels. Personal style and price are pretty much the deciding factors.
Cost is the major reason why CCW is the number 1 3-piece wheel you will see at SCCA nationals and Pro Solo events. John at CCW doesn't advertise, so word of mouth was how he built his business. I learned about these wheels when I started autocrossing many years ago. Hence why I immediately went to John when I needed a set of track wheels. Since he had the centers in stock, my wheels were built and shipped in 2 days of ordering.
The only other advice I can give is that I would avoid the 2-piece Forgeline wheels (3-piece are fine). They are welded together. There are problems with the wheels developing cracks at the welds and leaking under race conditions. I've see this happen with 2 sets of wheels. One set that was custom made for a Supra cracked, were sent back, re-welded and cracked again. Forgeline's turnaround for service is very slow. It typically takes them 6 weeks to re-weld and send back a set of wheels. I don't know about their service on 3-pieces wheels, but I have see John at CCW receive, rebuild and send back a set of wheels in a week.
Pretty much a 3-piece wheel is a 3-piece wheel when it comes to racing. Fikse, Forgeline, HRE, CCW and Iforged all buy the out rim halves from the same company. Each company forges their own wheel centers. From their the differences are the finishes, types of bolts and how each one seals the wheels. Personal style and price are pretty much the deciding factors.
Cost is the major reason why CCW is the number 1 3-piece wheel you will see at SCCA nationals and Pro Solo events. John at CCW doesn't advertise, so word of mouth was how he built his business. I learned about these wheels when I started autocrossing many years ago. Hence why I immediately went to John when I needed a set of track wheels. Since he had the centers in stock, my wheels were built and shipped in 2 days of ordering.
The only other advice I can give is that I would avoid the 2-piece Forgeline wheels (3-piece are fine). They are welded together. There are problems with the wheels developing cracks at the welds and leaking under race conditions. I've see this happen with 2 sets of wheels. One set that was custom made for a Supra cracked, were sent back, re-welded and cracked again. Forgeline's turnaround for service is very slow. It typically takes them 6 weeks to re-weld and send back a set of wheels. I don't know about their service on 3-pieces wheels, but I have see John at CCW receive, rebuild and send back a set of wheels in a week.
09-27-2006, 07:42 PM
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"The CCW 1-piece wheels come only in 19"
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no, not ture, are you talking about the "corsair"??? if so they ONLY COME in 18"
NJGT and i both got a set, well NJGT may have more than one set of that ;-)
The CCW classic 3-piece is their race wheel.
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John at CCW, he flat out told me and several others that the "corsair" is a MAGNITUDE stronger than his classis 3 pcs.
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no, not ture, are you talking about the "corsair"??? if so they ONLY COME in 18"
NJGT and i both got a set, well NJGT may have more than one set of that ;-)
The CCW classic 3-piece is their race wheel.
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John at CCW, he flat out told me and several others that the "corsair" is a MAGNITUDE stronger than his classis 3 pcs.
09-27-2006, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vegasgolf98
Fikse's dont' fit a GT3 properly if you are going to track it. You'll need spacers. If you are not tracking it, no problem.
09-27-2006, 10:24 PM
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if your Fikses do not fit you bought them from the wrong person. They custom build every wheel. If you order them from Austin a@ TRG or Gregg Fordahl @ Fordahl Motorsports in Seattle (Alex Jobs engineer) they will be able to order the right wheels
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09-28-2006, 03:45 PM
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I talked to the guys at CCW this morning. They seem to know what they are talking about and have sold 15 sets of wheels for GT3's.
The 18" classics won't clear the brakes on a GT3. I didn't ask about 19" because I need 18" for tire choices.
The Corsair's do fit a GT3 in 18" and as mentioned above are much stronger than the 3 piece. Two versions. Race are about 2lbs lighter each because the center section is milled away but won't hold a center cap. The street version does support a center cap. Wheels can be all black or they are doing most of them in silver with clear coat. $2600 for the race set and two weeks to build.
The 18" classics won't clear the brakes on a GT3. I didn't ask about 19" because I need 18" for tire choices.
The Corsair's do fit a GT3 in 18" and as mentioned above are much stronger than the 3 piece. Two versions. Race are about 2lbs lighter each because the center section is milled away but won't hold a center cap. The street version does support a center cap. Wheels can be all black or they are doing most of them in silver with clear coat. $2600 for the race set and two weeks to build.
09-28-2006, 03:52 PM
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09-28-2006, 04:03 PM
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Buddy of mine has been using regular FM-10's since 2004. No problems what so ever. Tracked hard on slicks and/or r-comps. Think the others have Profile 10's or 13's.
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Work fine on track too. Here he is right after passing Bob Rouleau . . . on his home track!
Buddy of mine has been using regular FM-10's since 2004. No problems what so ever. Tracked hard on slicks and/or r-comps. Think the others have Profile 10's or 13's.
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Work fine on track too. Here he is right after passing Bob Rouleau . . . on his home track!
09-28-2006, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Buck
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Buddy of mine has been using regular FM-10's since 2004. No problems what so ever. Tracked hard on slicks and/or r-comps. Think the others have Profile 10's or 13's.
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Work fine on track too. Here he is right after passing Bob Rouleau . . . on his home track!
Buddy of mine has been using regular FM-10's since 2004. No problems what so ever. Tracked hard on slicks and/or r-comps. Think the others have Profile 10's or 13's.
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Work fine on track too. Here he is right after passing Bob Rouleau . . . on his home track!
Mike, is that the corner worker inside the armco? Looks a bit risky...
09-28-2006, 07:24 PM
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Namerow is a nice corner but has for Bob getting passed, I'm sure he just wanted to make sure you had the right line......
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09-29-2006, 02:14 PM
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Guys,
They CAN work. But, speak with John at Wheel Enchancement (an expert-I'm not), the profil 10 are not made to the same exact size specs as the OEM GT3 Wheel. I've seen them on plenty of GT-3's with them on the track, but I'm a bit of a tire safety nut after past experiences. I've been advised by two significant racing experts not to run them for serious tracking FWIW. They both love and have used Fikse in the past. I'm just trying to share knowledge.
I wanted the Fikse, but did not want the compromise-if they are now making totally custom size ok, but they weren't two years ago for me.
They CAN work. But, speak with John at Wheel Enchancement (an expert-I'm not), the profil 10 are not made to the same exact size specs as the OEM GT3 Wheel. I've seen them on plenty of GT-3's with them on the track, but I'm a bit of a tire safety nut after past experiences. I've been advised by two significant racing experts not to run them for serious tracking FWIW. They both love and have used Fikse in the past. I'm just trying to share knowledge.
I wanted the Fikse, but did not want the compromise-if they are now making totally custom size ok, but they weren't two years ago for me.