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Old 06-23-2006, 06:28 PM
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Cup rotors still crack though as they are drilled. More cost effective over the long run to get some proper disks e.g. Alcon/Brembos/Wrightwood (or whatever the name is of those ones you guys use in the US).
Old 06-23-2006, 06:33 PM
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Old 06-23-2006, 08:51 PM
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Read what Walter Rohl says about the ceramics on the 997TT in this month's Panorama. He can't tell the difference btw them and the steel brakes.

Interesting. . .
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have inital bite (hot and cold) that'll pull your eyeballs from your skull
You really can't use comparisons between Gen1 and Gen2
Gen1 has a history of known problems.

Gen2 seems to have solved the issues.
Originally Posted by DanH
With all due respect, 8k miles is hardly an exhaustive test. You may need to buy 20k USD of disks at 10k miles.
I would say that this amount of Gen2 "track only" miles does say somthing to the reliability, considering the poor reputation / reliability of Gen1.

How many people log 8,000 track miles in a year?

For me the Gen 2 PCCB are phenominal and as mentioned above:
have inital bite (hot and cold) that'll pull your eyeballs from your skull
Not to mention that the new GT3 and Turbo have 380mm dia PCCB.
The limiting factor is the tire
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The limiting factor on the 996 GT3 is also the tyre, whether or ceramic or steel.

I wish you all every success with your Gen2s I have my fingers crossed for you. However I don't for one moment believe they stop any better than steels, and they certainly cost more to renew.
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The 380mm/350mm PCCB Gen-II were already tested on the Porsche SuperCup. The race teams were complaining about the cost, their budget is higher than the typical GT3 owner household income.

I don't think Hoosier or Kumho tires are that bad on grip. Then there is a large variety of slicks available for similar prices, Pirelli, Yokos, Michelin, Dunlop, etc.

Brembo GTR.
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i think the steel will be hard to turn down ... 8000 / 300 each that is about 26 rotors..hmmmmm
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How often are the race teams having to replace the PCCBs? It's every 2 races if I'm not mistaken. Thats not confidence inspiring.
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997 GT3 ceramic rotors will be larger diameter than steel spec. so just curious what the course of action would be if you decide to swap a ceramic specd 997 GT3 over to steel? Larger steel rotors than stock steel to match diameter of ceramics or get into changing caliper hangers? If you go larger steel then you're adding even more weight, no?
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I don’t think I will be in the mood down the line to spend the money that a set of PCCB rotors will cost. I know that they are the best around, but I still have some learning to do on just driving this car in the most efficient way. I equate these brakes to a new computer; no mater how powerful it is the next day there will be a better one. I’m going to give them time to evolve and spend the savings on some more driving lessons.
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Default PCCB Gen 1 v Gen 2

Okay, how to tell the difference, and when did Porsche switch?
Old 06-25-2006, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by lwilkins
Okay, how to tell the difference, and when did Porsche switch?
996 to 997
Old 06-25-2006, 11:29 AM
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all are gen II at this time. All replacements default to a refurbished Gen I hat with gen II surface.
lwilkins, the hle patterens are diferent between gen I and II
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Yep. Gen I has the hoes in a random looking order, the Gen II has the pattern in a spiral.

I am going for the Gen II Ceramics.
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Originally Posted by DanH
How often are the race teams having to replace the PCCBs? It's every 2 races if I'm not mistaken. Thats not confidence inspiring.
Thought I'd read that the latest ones were now considered cost effective for racing because they were lasting so long.


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