ohlins dual ride height system
#1
Three Wheelin'
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ohlins dual ride height system
any of you guys had any experience with the ohlins dual ride height system?
because of my steep driveway i'm going to need something like thus to be able to have garage access for cars with low front aprons. had a small problem with the 996gt3 i previously had and the 997gt3 is lower. also considering a cgt which porsche makes a one inch lift kit for that would not be adjustable.
the ohlins system would be adjustable up to a couple inches.
robin had ruf install it on his gt3 and thinks it's a good system.
since it appearently hasnt been out very long i was just wondering if any one else had any experience with the system?
because of my steep driveway i'm going to need something like thus to be able to have garage access for cars with low front aprons. had a small problem with the 996gt3 i previously had and the 997gt3 is lower. also considering a cgt which porsche makes a one inch lift kit for that would not be adjustable.
the ohlins system would be adjustable up to a couple inches.
robin had ruf install it on his gt3 and thinks it's a good system.
since it appearently hasnt been out very long i was just wondering if any one else had any experience with the system?
#2
Three Wheelin'
I enquired with Ruf about this and it seemed to be automatic when you dropped below 30 mph. Was actually more interested in being able to drive with more ride height at speed on bumpy roads, but its not suited for that type of usage.
Very expensive too...
Very expensive too...
#3
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If you would like to get some specific info directly from Öhlins I know one of the guys working there. I am not sure if this is a RUF-specific product but there might be better deals through other sources..
#4
From time to time I stay with a charming plastic surgeon and her husband in Prague. Watching a light entertainment programme on television one night, I noticed her chuckling away and thought to enquire how many of the singers and dancers were former patients of hers. Flustering somewhat she said she couldn't possibly say. Later, she admitted that about three quartes of them had been under her knife.
Well asking Alois Ruf about the number of lifting collars he has installed or a Saville Row tailor how many suits he has made, is a bit the same, its a tactless question.
The answer is that there have been very few installations. For several reasons.
1. OEM manufacturers are cheap and very very few production cars use Öhlins components, which are not cheap.
2. The German distributor for Öhlins is somewhat offhand and the German tuners find him too difficuilt to deal with. This is unfortunate, Germany is a big tuning country, there would be lots of local customers.
3. There are not many tuners in the world that are capable of having electronic circuitry designed and integrated into their cars. The way this product is designed requires this level of aftermarket involvement. Every new car requires the program to be modified and tested, and, get this, passed by the TÜV, the road safety authority.
There are a few other tuners who could possibly do install these collars, but they are very discrete about where they source their components from.
Finally, many people who have, over the years, endured whatever systems Ferrari and Lamborghini have employed, have welcomed this product with open arms.
If you want a solution for a car for which the work has not already been done, then allow six months, its not an instant gratification product. Being the first customer is also expensive.
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Well asking Alois Ruf about the number of lifting collars he has installed or a Saville Row tailor how many suits he has made, is a bit the same, its a tactless question.
The answer is that there have been very few installations. For several reasons.
1. OEM manufacturers are cheap and very very few production cars use Öhlins components, which are not cheap.
2. The German distributor for Öhlins is somewhat offhand and the German tuners find him too difficuilt to deal with. This is unfortunate, Germany is a big tuning country, there would be lots of local customers.
3. There are not many tuners in the world that are capable of having electronic circuitry designed and integrated into their cars. The way this product is designed requires this level of aftermarket involvement. Every new car requires the program to be modified and tested, and, get this, passed by the TÜV, the road safety authority.
There are a few other tuners who could possibly do install these collars, but they are very discrete about where they source their components from.
Finally, many people who have, over the years, endured whatever systems Ferrari and Lamborghini have employed, have welcomed this product with open arms.
If you want a solution for a car for which the work has not already been done, then allow six months, its not an instant gratification product. Being the first customer is also expensive.
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#5
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
porsche has thier own one inch lift kit that is not adjustable that supposedly works well with the car and has been installed in some customer cgt's.
a dealer told me after posting on the factory forum there was nothing but good feedback.
but he had to keep the customers names private so he couldnt give me any references to check.
and then he said, but two of the customers are jay leno and jerry seinfeld! LOL! he! he!
so i sent an email to jay leno asking how the system works! LOL
i'm sure i'll get a quick response!
supposedly he doesnt even use computers!
robin, you are confident that the ohlins system would be a superior choice to the porsche oem lift kit?
a dealer told me after posting on the factory forum there was nothing but good feedback.
but he had to keep the customers names private so he couldnt give me any references to check.
and then he said, but two of the customers are jay leno and jerry seinfeld! LOL! he! he!
so i sent an email to jay leno asking how the system works! LOL
i'm sure i'll get a quick response!
supposedly he doesnt even use computers!
robin, you are confident that the ohlins system would be a superior choice to the porsche oem lift kit?
#6
Three Wheelin'
I don't see how you could apply the ohlins kit to a CGT, it has inboard dampers on cantilevers. Presumably this is why Porsche had to make a kit, as on a 911 you are reasonably free to adjust the ride height if you are happy for it to be fixed.
Jacking up my RS for the first time on the weekend, I was somewhat alarmed by the near complete absence of droop in the suspension. No wonder it feels like I am taking off on bumpy roads. I guess this is due to the ride height?
Jacking up my RS for the first time on the weekend, I was somewhat alarmed by the near complete absence of droop in the suspension. No wonder it feels like I am taking off on bumpy roads. I guess this is due to the ride height?
Last edited by DanH; 03-21-2006 at 09:34 PM.
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Originally Posted by icon
so i sent an email to jay leno asking how the system works!
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#8
Three Wheelin'
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Originally Posted by JasonAndreas
The Porsche upgrade involves installing longer pushrods on the front and rear and increasing the spring preload on the rear (by turning the washer on the rear strut three complete turns). The front axle ends up raised 10mm and the rear axle 9mm.
are you sure we're talking about the same thing?
how did you find out what the kit consists of?
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Originally Posted by icon
how did you find out what the kit consists of?
#10
Three Wheelin'
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Originally Posted by JasonAndreas
From the installation instructions in TSB 4495, "Raising Ride Height" dated May 3, 2005.
#11
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Originally Posted by icon
the kit i'm referring to wasnt available at that time.
980-343-257-04 (1) Front axle push rod, left
980-343-258-04 (1) Front axle push rod, right
980-333-257-04 (1) Rear axle push rod, left
980-333-258-04 (1) Rear axle push rod, right
900-817-003-02 (4) Lock nut (M10), upper push rod
999-084-016-02 (2) Lock nut (M10), lower front push rod
900-380-008-09 (2) Hexagon nut (M10), lower rear push rod.
#12
Originally Posted by DanH
I don't see how you could apply the ohlins kit to a CGT, it has inboard dampers on cantilevers. Presumably this is why Porsche had to make a kit, as on a 911 you are reasonably free to adjust the ride height if you are happy for it to be fixed.
Jacking up my RS for the first time on the weekend, I was somewhat alarmed by the near complete absence of droop in the suspension. No wonder it feels like I am taking off on bumpy roads. I guess this is due to the ride height?
Jacking up my RS for the first time on the weekend, I was somewhat alarmed by the near complete absence of droop in the suspension. No wonder it feels like I am taking off on bumpy roads. I guess this is due to the ride height?
It can be done to the front of the CGT, but not the rear. It has been designed and engineered. Waiting on beeter weather before being fitted. Final costs should be available in a few weeks.
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