Toe Link Pics Needed
12-16-2005, 04:57 PM
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Burning Brakes
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Toe Link Pics Needed
Anyone have a set of pics of the cup rear toe links? Also which ones would be the best correct replacement for the OE GT3 links, RS or cup?
Tnks and Happy Holidays.
Tnks and Happy Holidays.
12-16-2005, 05:28 PM
#2
Burning Brakes
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ericdee,
Thanks for the response. I should have been a bit more specific. What I need is a picture of the adjustable rear suspension links that adjust the toe seting in the rear of the car. There has been some discussion as to the stability of the OE links as opposed to the cup links, different set up. I am considering making a set but need to know what the cup replacements look like. I believe the cup links use a bolt and nut for adjustment, instead of the eccentric and a heim joint instead of a rubber bushing.
Ray
Thanks for the response. I should have been a bit more specific. What I need is a picture of the adjustable rear suspension links that adjust the toe seting in the rear of the car. There has been some discussion as to the stability of the OE links as opposed to the cup links, different set up. I am considering making a set but need to know what the cup replacements look like. I believe the cup links use a bolt and nut for adjustment, instead of the eccentric and a heim joint instead of a rubber bushing.
Ray
12-17-2005, 09:29 PM
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Burning Brakes
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plima,
Found 'em, thanks for the direction. Very helpful, should be able to make these without too much fuss.
Anyone have any biases as to wether the toe and camber both should be done or is just the toe OK. As I mentioned most of the negative comments were about the toe stability issue.
Found 'em, thanks for the direction. Very helpful, should be able to make these without too much fuss.
Anyone have any biases as to wether the toe and camber both should be done or is just the toe OK. As I mentioned most of the negative comments were about the toe stability issue.
12-17-2005, 09:58 PM
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Just toe is ok. Camber does not go out much. Its the bushings and the carrera adjustments that get all wacky. The toe links and bushings are all you need. Set the rear at 5/32 toe in or about 15-20 mins per side, and you should be fine.
12-17-2005, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RayGT3
Anyone have any biases as to wether the toe and camber both should be done or is just the toe OK. As I mentioned most of the negative comments were about the toe stability issue.
I am very interested in whatever you wind up fab'ing, especially if it fits other 996/986/TT/GT2/etc. I think you need to do both, and the front control arm will be more difficult.
12-17-2005, 11:12 PM
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Nordschleife Master
I have the cups...not installed yet. Why the picture need ? It's a roung metal bar with a ball joint on one end and a heim joint on the other. Not too exiciting. Devek sells the most current incarnation. Plug and play on the stock GT3.
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12-18-2005, 12:32 AM
#9
Burning Brakes
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The reason I'd be putting these together would be cost. I'm sure I can buy the parts for 30-40% of what retail folks are currently asking. As Rockitman eludes, these are not precision machined or exclusive items, standard hardware. I started hearing prices around $400 a pair then $600 and somewhere I remember the price being tossed around was North of $1000. What is the going price for a set now adays?
12-18-2005, 03:02 AM
#10
Burning Brakes
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Rockitman,
Could you tell me if the threaded toe link end with the ball joint has a taper or is it a straight shaft where it would fit into the carrier?
Tnx
Could you tell me if the threaded toe link end with the ball joint has a taper or is it a straight shaft where it would fit into the carrier?
Tnx
12-18-2005, 04:24 AM
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Ray,
Check this thread:
Toe Links alternatives
The critical problem is on the toe links. Devek has recently sold the latest GT3Cup car toe links, those ones are stronger, they don't bend as the previous GT3Cup car ones.
Check this thread:
Toe Links alternatives
The critical problem is on the toe links. Devek has recently sold the latest GT3Cup car toe links, those ones are stronger, they don't bend as the previous GT3Cup car ones.
12-18-2005, 02:10 PM
#12
Nordschleife Master
Originally Posted by RayGT3
The reason I'd be putting these together would be cost. I'm sure I can buy the parts for 30-40% of what retail folks are currently asking. As Rockitman eludes, these are not precision machined or exclusive items, standard hardware. I started hearing prices around $400 a pair then $600 and somewhere I remember the price being tossed around was North of $1000. What is the going price for a set now adays?
12-18-2005, 02:10 PM
#13
Burning Brakes
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NJ-GT,
Thanks for your input. The vast array of hardware attests to the fact that there is indeed a lac of integrity in the OE items and there is a substantial amount of money to be made here.
I was not aware of any "bending" going on, which is very interesting given their apparent cast construction. A poor choice in material based on the application, in my opinion.
This sounds like a initially simple project has gotten very interesting. Lots of traid-offs, billet Aluminum or chrome molly tube. One light and relatively strong and the other margionaly heavier but stronger. One just needs machining the other welding which entails worrying about the heat effected zones. Which material for the ends, lots to pick from.
It would be interesting to hear from you folks as to what your ideal solution might be.
Thanks for your input. The vast array of hardware attests to the fact that there is indeed a lac of integrity in the OE items and there is a substantial amount of money to be made here.
I was not aware of any "bending" going on, which is very interesting given their apparent cast construction. A poor choice in material based on the application, in my opinion.
This sounds like a initially simple project has gotten very interesting. Lots of traid-offs, billet Aluminum or chrome molly tube. One light and relatively strong and the other margionaly heavier but stronger. One just needs machining the other welding which entails worrying about the heat effected zones. Which material for the ends, lots to pick from.
It would be interesting to hear from you folks as to what your ideal solution might be.
12-18-2005, 02:33 PM
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Nordschleife Master
Originally Posted by RayGT3
rockitman,
Is the price you quote just for the set of two toe arms and bushings?
Is the price you quote just for the set of two toe arms and bushings?
#996.331.373.9A toe arm bushing inboard - $45 each x 4
I also did the rear mononball kit. I will address various dog bone links and rubber bushings on the control arms down the road kind of $$$.