Popthatthang

How 'bout my homeboy's 8 second quarter mile @ 190 mph Supra vs. the GT3? Muuuuu-haha.

Popthatthang

You get a woody while driving your car? Haha.

cigarette1

I'm getting a woody looking at your avatar

AeroGT3RedWing

How about your homeboy try to run on a track at full throttle more than 50% of the time. I bet he could do 2-3 laps before his motor blew.

MoneyBiz

Ha...

GrantG

I think you're off (on the low side) by a couple hundred pounds for the weight...

MoneyBiz

Who makes the best coilovers for the e46 m3?

mooty

Who makes the best coilovers for the e46 m3?
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not sure if they are the BEST, but here are some very nice ones.
jrz
moton
ground control

in order of price.

CP

The M3 racing crowd swears by Ground Control and Jay's ability to tune the suspension to their specifications. There is a PSS9 system for the M3 also.

CP

frayed

I've been in the BMW community for years and did a bit of the development work on the E36 Ground Control stuff. Back in the day, I spent countless hours measuring, testing, talking with Jay. Trying out new parts too.

All that got integrated into the E46 setups.

The best c/os for E36 and E46 alike (same suspension architecture) is GCs stuff, with Moton clubsport dampers instead of their usual Koni spec. IMHO. But for more info, hang out at the M3 boards.

///Mous3

Haahaa... what would left after you replace the Koni's in the GC setup? Their springs, camber/caster plates and the modified strut housings?

I have PSS9 setup on my E46 M3 and tunning is a lot more straight forward. However, if I were to start all over again, I would go with the GC.

Another part that GC excles is their swaybars...

But for the E30 M3, I will do something similar to what Jeff has hinted. Sexier setup, but not necessarily a "better" since some of us are not up to the challenge of actually "tunning" a suspension.

P.S. GC is the PC Clone of the suspension package.

frayed

You are misguided. The only true GC setup (using your definition) is their suspension with Advance Design dampers, which have a narrow range of damping, leak, are noisy, require rebuilds with alarming frequency, and have found their niche in certain racing classes that cannot run remote resevoir dampers. They are not street worthy by any stretch, nor will Jay sell them to people who want to run then on the street,

GC will build coilover setups with Moton dampers or various ranges of Koni dampers according to your choosing. They don't do Bilstein. I think they may do JRZ as well. They are also married to Eibach, and will not do HR springs.

Also understand that Moton only sells dampers; companies like GC are on their own to build the rest of the system so it can be bolted to a particular car.

mooty

Advance Design dampers, which have a narrow range of damping, leak, are noisy, require rebuilds with alarming frequency, and have found their niche in certain racing classes that cannot run remote resevoir dampers. They are not street worthy by any stretch,
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whoa, frayed, are you my mechanic in disguise???
he said EXACTLY the samething.
he build a few cars with that config for cca and nabr racing precisely b/c remote reservoirs aren't allowed. those cars are trailered. he told me if i wanted to drive the car on street and insist on AD's i need to buy 3 sets so he can keep rebuilding them non stop ;-0

frayed

LOL, not your tech, but can play one on the internet.

I don't mean to put down the AD stuff, but those dampers are really a narrow purpose setup. Properly setup on a race car, they are fast. . . but are maintenance intensive. They also lack the small bump compliance of Motons.

I've been in two AD'd cars, but both were race cars.

SleepRM3

Read all 7 pages. Interesting the OP SOLD his GT3 for a non-ZCP E46 M3?